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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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maybe after a few months they will release another evo better than the evo mr edition!
I hope so.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO Neil
People need to realize that their were less 2004 Evo's brought here for sale than in 2003, so guess what sales couldn't be better or even equal, they had to be lower with less available for purchase. Let's look at this from a logical viewpoint and try to understand the numbers instead of just reading them.

awdmofo has it right and I support his reasoning 100%. You guys are whining about cosmetic items. The only performance item we don't get here is the S-AYC, big deal. I applaud Mitsu for bringing the car here considering its current financial situation. Stop whining or move to Japan where you can buy the JDM version.

Thank you Mitsubishi for supporting the U.S. market and don't listen to the haters.
I have to agree.

This is a very low volume car line. It is not meant to have universal appeal. Just be happy the MR is coming at all. It is like the ITR, did anybody give Honda crap about different versions. I do hope they keep improving the Evo.

The cosmetic stuff you can fix if you desire. The car is a rally special it is not trying to be a M3 and I find that refreshing.

I am just happy that they had the wing ends are painted body color. The last thing I needed in SoCal was a stock wing that looks aftermarket.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Honestly from what I've been reading I'm somewhat disappointed over the chrome bezels but Mitsu's stance is quite understandable, as it is with the seats as the USDM seat is already a specialty production item for our market only. The leather package should have a far better chance to persaude US buyers then black recaros in an MR in reality. What im going to be looking for now from Mitsu is a 31,xxx pricepoint, at that level the car truly is a bargain for the enthusiast and will give us one of the best track cars out of the box, period. Hoping to still get an MR come September.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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As others have said. As soon as we start reading reviews and we actually start driving the USDM MR, you guys will forget about all of this light & seat BS. You probably should go buy an STI, although I think almost all will regret it unless you have a knack for controlled delusion.

In our USDM evo we still have some of the absolute the best production seats available to us. My opinion of course, but also the opinion of quite a few journalists. I guess the STI's seats are just that much prettier, huh?

Last thing, why did ANYONE think we would get the JDM seats or even anything resembling them!? ALL USDM seats have blue fabric or (for 2004, 2005) black leather, ALL other markets get black fabric (apparently other-market MRs get leather trim?). I never once read any press release saying that our MR was getting different seats. Where were you guys getting this!? Are you just using the MR as a second opprotunity to complain about getting them? Thats fine but don't come on here and say that not getting the JDM seats has changed your mind about getting the MR. You jumped the gun in assuming we'd get them.

The only thing I was afraid of was mitsubishi actually taking some of you guys seriously about wanting all of this luxury crap and making the leather seats and a NAV system standard! If that happened, then we'd really have something to be pissed about! Thank god they didn't do that and I hope they don't take our MR talk too seriously.

Good job Mitsubishi and thanks for bringing us a car that is even better.

One last thing. I hope it won't be long before we realize that this "street cred" stuff is a bunch of crap. "Street cred" is what got us these gaudi altezza styled lights in the first place and it is probably what will make us hate our blacked out tails in a year or two.

Give it up, all of this street cred BS is just the attempt of adolesence and adults to give weight and meaning to their own childish behavior. Movies like F&F come out and then the kids follow suit.

Note: I would like to add "import lyfstylz, tuner lyvstilz, JDM lifestyles, pimping your ride, pimposity, and all around pimpness pertaining to vehicles" to the list of BS equivalent to "street-cred" as well.

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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wrong again. leather and nav systems are available as standard equipment in europe. Even the most expensive exotics that are far more powerful and far faster have these options so stop saying that mitsubishi did the right thing by not offering luxury. A perfect car would be a car that can be as safe as possible, handle, accelerate, decelerate and be as plush as possible. The evo is not a race car but a road car. period. The only car that is near (about 13,000 more than evo) the evo's price range that might be near a race car is the new lotus elise.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by moviebumm
wrong again. leather and nav systems are available as standard equipment in europe. Even the most expensive exotics that are far more powerful and far faster have these options so stop saying that mitsubishi did the right thing by not offering luxury. A perfect car would be a car that can be as safe as possible, handle, accelerate, decelerate and be as plush as possible. The evo is not a race car but a road car. period. The only car that is near (about 13,000 more than evo) the evo's price range that might be near a race car is the new lotus elise.
Wrong again? When was I wrong the first time.. j/k

In my post, I said that I did not want leather and a nav standard. I have no problem with having these as options. And I wasn't referring to getting the UK spec seats (which from what I can tell are suede or just have leather/suede touches), I still didn't think we would get these and had no reason to. Please let me know why you and others seemed to think we would? I was worried we would get the USDM leather seats. Eclipses have some nasty leather in them, and alot of people would rather not have leather.
I definently don't want to have to pay for it, or a GPS (Go to walmart and buy a hand held unit )

I don't understand your needs or wants and I won't pretend to. But from what I can tell, it seems like you really want everything for a $30-$40k price tag. Top notch performance, luxury, safety, looks, practicaility. You're going to have a hard time finding this and you should probably prioritize and figure out what is most important. If you dislike the car so much, you're free to express that but more than anything you just do a good job of confusing me.

The only mistake I see mitsu making at this point is if they charge too much for it. The 32-33k I'm hearing sounds about right to me so it's all good.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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No AYC either, or am I wrong?

The US MR is a joke. Glad I didn't wait.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Do you consider the USDM GSR a joke? AYC is not an MR specific feature, it is on all JDM Evos. We get all of the major mechanical differences that make the JDM MR an MR.

I don't think you should feel bad for not waiting though and no one should tell you that. It's ignorant to say that any Evo model is a joke or that anyone should feel bad about owning any particular model. You wanted an Evo, had no problem buying one and didn't want to wait. Congratulations.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I feel it's a joke because there is hardly anything distinguishing it from the GSR. So of course as a car it's not a joke, but as a special edition it is.

It should be the absolute best version of the Evo possible.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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cosmetics....as soon as you see another Evo like yours down the road then the "customizing" begins.
And as far as inferior product line than JDM remember that Evos were already available in Japan; I'm sure Mitsu spent a lot of money on research to meet fed standards and "water them down" so the gov is to blame too; the bar gets set higher for anything thats not Ford or GM.
And doesnt the MR Ed get a bigger turbo? In reality, who is going to leave their Evo completely factory for at least the first few warranty years?
just my .02
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jomagi
I feel it's a joke because there is hardly anything distinguishing it from the GSR. So of course as a car it's not a joke, but as a special edition it is.

It should be the absolute best version of the Evo possible.
Its the best evo in the US son, don't be jealous now.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jomagi
I feel it's a joke because there is hardly anything distinguishing it from the GSR. So of course as a car it's not a joke, but as a special edition it is.

It should be the absolute best version of the Evo possible.
At the same time it won't cost $39K either. It is priced a little more than a '05 VIII and it is a little better than an '05 VIII.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by moviebumm
wrong again. leather and nav systems are available as standard equipment in europe. Even the most expensive exotics that are far more powerful and far faster have these options so stop saying that mitsubishi did the right thing by not offering luxury. A perfect car would be a car that can be as safe as possible, handle, accelerate, decelerate and be as plush as possible. The evo is not a race car but a road car. period. The only car that is near (about 13,000 more than evo) the evo's price range that might be near a race car is the new lotus elise.
Leather and Nav comes with the MR fq-340 package in the UK. I thank MMSA for not bringing that here. Keep it simple light and fast. Plenty of choices if you want a sporty car with luxury. It may not be a race car but it is a harder edged sports car than anything in its price range. It is the Ultimate Driving Machine.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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MR Edition or Evolution MR.... blacked out lamps and black recaros... who gives a flying #$%@?

I forgot that having functioning, chrome lamps and a regular non-alcantra fabric interiror increases drag and hurts performance.

Where it counts the USDM MR has the goods... all the other stuff, though nice, is just gravey.

The money is in the mechanicals and the suspension tuning.

And for all y'all thinking the USD MR ain't worth it because it lacks the visuals of the JDM MR...

Go buy yourself a used '03 EVO, change the lights, redo the interior and upgrade the motor and suspension to remake a JDM MR, BUT,

It still, won't have the performance of the USDM MR (edition)

Without the visual markers distinguishing it from the USDM EVO GSR, the MR is almost like an EVO Q-ship... almost want that little MR edition plaque removed....

Oh yeah, and blacked out lamps still can't compensate for what's in you pants .

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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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The Bear, i didn't mean you were wrong again, i meant that the topic was wrong again. You were saying how it was a good thing mitsubishi did not bring over luxury items to the united states. I was disagreeing with you since other cars (Saleen, new Corvette, Lambo's and others) have this and since the evo's have luxury items in japan and europe then they should bring them to the most luxurious market which would be the united states. I see that erikgi feels the same way as you the bear, but obviously i don't. The evo is not a race car and that being said it should have all the ingredients in order to make the proper dish, and it the united states version, we are missing several key ingredients.
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