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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pjork-master
MR Edition or Evolution MR.... blacked out lamps and black recaros... who gives a flying #$%@?

I forgot that having functioning, chrome lamps and a regular non-alcantra fabric interiror increases drag and hurts performance.

Where it counts the USDM MR has the goods... all the other stuff, though nice, is just gravey.

The money is in the mechanicals and the suspension tuning.

And for all y'all thinking the USD MR ain't worth it because it lacks the visuals of the JDM MR...

Go buy yourself a used '03 EVO, change the lights, redo the interior and upgrade the motor and suspension to remake a JDM MR, BUT,

It still, won't have the performance of the USDM MR (edition)

Without the visual markers distinguishing it from the USDM EVO GSR, the MR is almost like an EVO Q-ship... almost want that little MR edition plaque removed....

Oh yeah, and blacked out lamps still can't compensate for what's in you pants .

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The cosmetics don't hurt the performance but it does hurt the price/performance ratio. It would be hard to imagine that the cost of adding those options to an 800 car run would be worth it.

BTW there are no options on the MR at all. The rel option here is MR mor no MR. Did ITRs have many optoons on them?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Seems like there are three kinds of people on this board:

1) Unhappy with something about the MR and willing to gripe openly about it

2) Fanboys who criticize anybody who complains and defend whatever Mitsubishi does as a good decision ("passenger seat is now optional? good job, Mitsu...now I won't have to take it out to save weight...thanks!")

3) Everybody else
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:42 PM
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well, we have a few options here...
1) we can revolt against the government, but then we may never get the evo here
2) we can wait for the IX and hope it has more in common w/ the jdm version (though i remember reading somewhere that the US and JDM versions would "evolve" differently from here on out) or
3) we can move to the UK and get ourselves some FQ 340's
so what are you guys up for?
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by evostitch
What's wrong with wanting Leather seats? Why can't I have a performance car with some luxury? Why must I sacrafice luxury when I'm willing to spend the money? Honestly, I wouldn't buy ANY new car without a 6spd and leather interior. The whole reason that I waited on getting an EVO was for the 6spd...now they're telling me that I can't have leather? They can always swap out the leather from the 5spd models and switch them with the MR.

And yes I know that the EVOs are supposed to be all about performance blah blah blah but why not both? And no I don't want another car dammit I want an EVO with 6spd and leather!!!

Maybe I should just wait for the EVO IX....
Just when you can use the word "luxurious" on an evo??? I don't care if you install Connolly leathers in an Evo. The interior is still sh*t. Do you know the evo share the WHOLE interior with the $13,000 Lancer ES. Bandai or Tamiya probably use higher quality plastics than Mitsubishi. You'll need the whole package to work, not just the seats. Honestly, a 10 years old accord has a better interior than the evo.

You left out a very important word, Evos are supposed to be all about "CHEAP" performance, and the word "cheap" doesn't quite work with the word "luxury".

Fine, wait for the evo IX, mitsubishi might listen and bring in leather seat for the "special" US customer. But I can gurantee you that it will still have a POS interior because evo is based on the next generation $13000 econobox Lancer.
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by cmf
Seems like there are three kinds of people on this board:

1) Unhappy with something about the MR and willing to gripe openly about it

2) Fanboys who criticize anybody who complains and defend whatever Mitsubishi does as a good decision ("passenger seat is now optional? good job, Mitsu...now I won't have to take it out to save weight...thanks!")

3) Everybody else
Seems like there are three kinds of people on this board:

1) Unreasonable with something about the MR and willing to openly make a fool out of themselves.

2) Rational people who try to talk some sense into the whiners who complains whatever Mitsubishi does as bad decision ("blacked out headlights is not available? damn you, Mitsu...now I have to hate the MR and go buy the STI....thanks")

3) Everybody else
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chantaiman51
Just when you can use the word "luxurious" on an evo??? I don't care if you install Connolly leathers in an Evo. The interior is still sh*t. Do you know the evo share the WHOLE interior with the $13,000 Lancer ES. Bandai or Tamiya probably use higher quality plastics than Mitsubishi. You'll need the whole package to work, not just the seats. Honestly, a 10 years old accord has a better interior than the evo.

You left out a very important word, Evos are supposed to be all about "CHEAP" performance, and the word "cheap" doesn't quite work with the word "luxury".

Fine, wait for the evo IX, mitsubishi might listen and bring in leather seat for the "special" US customer. But I can gurantee you that it will still have a POS interior because evo is based on the next generation $13000 econobox Lancer.

I've never quite understood the obsession with interiors on performance cars. Just like I've never really understood why one would need a 3000.00 stereo system on one. the Evo's interior is Cheap...but functional, and fairly well screwed together. All the switchgear works well, and I can see the speedo and tach, the steering wheel is outstanding, as are the seats....so I'm happy. Why would Mitsubishi want to waste $ designing a completely seperate interior for the car? But, no doubt with all the whining the Evo X will have aluminum and carbon fibre galore, and will cost 1500.00 more...which will spur on another new round of complaining. Peace guys.

Percy
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Nobody here that was complaining about what the MR isn't coming with was suggesting that those items should be standard. We were just saying that they should be an option. Jeez, do you have to try and make it personal by calling everyone whiners. Hello, this is a forum. I'm still getting an MR. Money talks right? Just wish that a few things were different. I'm not a Mitsubishi lackey...

My money will have spoken twice actually. Afterall I bought an '03 EVO and sold it last week so I can buy an MR.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 09:26 AM
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I'm not really disappointed with the "MR Edition", primarily because it has all the mechanicals that count. The missing AYC will probably be a godsend for the drag-racing obsessed americans.

I'm REALLY GLAD the sides of the spoiler will be body colored, IMO the dark sides just looked stupid and low class. I'm disappointed about the chrome head/tail lights, but that can be easily fixed in an afternoon with an oven and a can of spraypaint. (cheaper than sending the spoiler to a body shop at least...)

The lame interior isn't such a big deal, I'll probably have the stock seats modified for a 5/6-pt harness and reupholstered anyway. Edit: I'm also VERY happy that they decided to drop the HORRIBLE looking CF dash piece that stretched across the interior.

Hey guys, look at it this way. With the missing AYC, and the non-automatic heater controls, the car has got to weigh a bit less. With the bumper beams removed, it's probably the lightest "MR" in the world.

VERY happy about the AL roof, 6-speed, bilsteins, decent wheels. Overall, I think we should be happy that they skimped on the trivial things, and NOT on the core mechanicals. This is the closest the US has gotten to having a "real" EVO.

So people will understand my motivations, I am planning on doing AutoX in A-Stock with the car for a season... so I am more interested in the performance than the interior pieces. If/when it turns out I suck, I'll mod the hell out of it and beat up on "faster" cars at trackdays.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Funky
VERY happy about the AL roof, 6-speed, bilsteins, decent wheels. Overall, I think we should be happy that they skimped on the trivial things, and NOT on the core mechanicals. This is the closest the US has gotten to having a "real" EVO.
Amen... we get it where it counts.

Like getting a BJ... but being denied the money-shot

It's still great, perhaps not ideal.

Yeah it would have been nice to have the exact JDM version, but...

I never complain when I get what I want

Now, if we can only get an '05 RS MR-edition... that would be truly a track-day special.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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I am 3rd on the waiting list for the MR in my area. i just dont see paying 32-35k for an EVO when the only major change over a normal evo is the 6 speed tranny. (i am going to change the wheels and suspension anyways). the wheels are nice looking, but a set of SSRs are 2-3 pounds lighter each. get a set of JICs that weight less then the MR suspension and performe better.
Looks like i am just going to get an RS for invoice. and have the extra $7k to make my EVO performe, handel and look better then any stock MR. maybe i should change my name to RS 600 :P
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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Umm... the real major changes are the suspension, aluminium roof and reinforcement bars...

But, the RS sweet.

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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chantaiman51
Seems like there are three kinds of people on this board:

1) Unreasonable with something about the MR and willing to openly make a fool out of themselves.

2) Rational people who try to talk some sense into the whiners who complains whatever Mitsubishi does as bad decision ("blacked out headlights is not available? damn you, Mitsu...now I have to hate the MR and go buy the STI....thanks")

3) Everybody else
I couldn't have said it better myself!
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by MR 600
I am 3rd on the waiting list for the MR in my area. i just dont see paying 32-35k for an EVO when the only major change over a normal evo is the 6 speed tranny. (i am going to change the wheels and suspension anyways). the wheels are nice looking, but a set of SSRs are 2-3 pounds lighter each. get a set of JICs that weight less then the MR suspension and performe better.
Looks like i am just going to get an RS for invoice. and have the extra $7k to make my EVO performe, handel and look better then any stock MR. maybe i should change my name to RS 600 :P
yay for you. but have fun in a few years trying to resell that RS with no power options, no sound deadening, no abs, and all those aftermarket parts.
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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I think that it is pretty obvious that for meaningful speed, a "regular" Evo with 3500.00 worth of mods will handle as well, and be a whole lot faster. Just comes down to what you prefer, pure and simple.

Percy
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Old Aug 15, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Not so sure about the handling... in fact I'm pretty positive unless you go with an exotic, calibrated suspension setup it will be hard to match the MR's dynamics...

The MR has G-d (physics) and corporate suspension development on it's side.

Now that's a tough combo to beat.
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