True but I'm not talkin' BMW kinda luxury. I meant like luxury I can afford. All the cars likes Hondas and Mitsubishis all have POS interiors. But Having leather seats is better than not having any at all.

 

I want an Evo. And I was thinking of either just getting the VIII or the MR. I figured that if I waited for the MR, it'd be better because it would have the 6 speed, more power, etc.

But after reading the first post. It sounds like to me I am better off just getting the VIII. Even though the MR sounds somewhat appealing.

 

You missed my point.

Yes, I am not disputing the fact that the MR is better than the std evo. And its worth it to pick the MR over the std if you haven't already own the std evo. Think of it this way, the std evo sell for $30k and the MR sells for $33k. So it make sense to pay $3k extra for the MR. But its not worth it to pay anymore than $3k to "upgrade" to an MR.

Let say you own your 03 evo for 1 year and paid $30k otd for your original evo, then sold your evo for $22k. Thats $8k depreciation plus you are paying $3k more for the MR. The total cost to "upgrade" is $11k.

And by your thinking, next June, you must need to spend another $11k to $12k to upgrade from the MR to the evo IX. Its because it will be a "totally different beast". The IX might have a 320 hp Mivec 2.4 turbo engine, SAYC, forged magnesium wheel, sequential manual transmission, larger turbo, ohlins, and aluminum trunk, etc....

I guess if you have alot of money, any "upgrade" is fine. But if thats true, why keep upgrading a cheap car like evo and lose insane amount of money on depreciation like this???

 

I am sorry, for me at least, seeing leather seats in an Evo is just not fitting the "persona" of a rally replica. And it doesn't help the fact that they are surrounded by cheap abs plastic. The overall ambience of the interior is just awkard.

It reminds me of seeing Corolla having fake burl walnut trims, Civic having gold emblem kits, and Kia optima with the simulated wood steering wheels.

 

I could care less about the cosmetics or active handling BS...I wish they would ship it with more meat in the motor...340 sounds good...

 

Get in any old 90's era Japanese GT car and you'd have the same spartan style interior feel that the Evo does. Big expanses of plastic, plain black in color, simple gauge cluster. The VR-4 had lots of buttons and guages, but very little else. I remember reading articles on the NSX about how people said it didn't look different from a Prelude on the inside. Imagine paying 60,70+ and still getting standard Honda on the inside.

I thought everybody was "in" on the fact that the Evo was based on a 14K econobox. That't the beauty of it, that such a monster of a car, could come from such humble beginnings. All this talk of materials, climate controls, and such lead me to believe most of you are expecting too much for $30 grand. If having dominate performance over cars costing twice as much isn't important then you really need to be looking into highly polished German sedan or premium brand Japanese vehicle.

 

yeah guys, just be glad we are getting the MR, whining about the headlights and seats is just silly... GPTourer makes a really good point about the Evo above...

 

Amen Bro.

I think it's important to note that if the Evo had the same performance orientation that it does + the luxury and plushness of say, an M3, the car would cost 40,000+, easy. I think that the car's purposeful nature, much like Jimmy Carter's presidency, will be seen in a new light, and with a great deal more respect with the passage of time!

I personally like the spartan, no nonsense interior, and I have owned an M3 Convertible, an Audi Cab (1995), and a 740il.


Percy

 

Not complaining, and yeah glad as hell they are bringing and MR/MR edition here, but...

Just noting that unlike the European market, we have an RS with most of the mechanical (sans 6sp) and structural/performance changes (sans suspension, bbs wheels) and the GSR/RS has the same motor by all accounts, thought MITSU notes the MR has a bigger turbo, the spec sheets don't show it...

I've been on the list for an MR since last year, and I'm likely getting an MR/MR edition... I don't need luxury... I would have then went for the B6 S4, M3... and I love the humble beginnings of the Evo, but,

It's different when the MR is a higher output monster... like the 340.

But the outputs are the same...

Although I love that grey color.

At the end of the day, the USDM MR is not the overwhelming decision it was before it became the MR edition... and yes I agree, f@#$ the visual distinctions inside and out.

So the question becomes, is the cost of exclusivity worth it? Period. And that's what I myself, and others on the board are considering.

Since if you want to take the car on the track, the '05 RS will be the model to get. If you want more refinement, the GSR. The question is, whether or not go inbetween for the money?

But like I said, I love the grey...

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I dont' think people want to compare the evo to hi-performance luxury cars interior wise. I feel most of us just want what the car is offered over seas or the options. Such as leather, navigation, auto climate and etc. Questions like how come the JDM version has carbon fiber trim and we don't? Or how about the black fabric on seats? It's just aggervates people when Mitsubishi takes off these things just to save a couple of bucks. It is just the principle to make the MR look like a MR. The MR is a higher end evo and people willing to buy a MR can afford and want these things since they are paying more anyways.

Personally i'd be upset if mine came with the slippery leather.

 

I'm not looking for a luxury cruiser, I use my C for that. But it is senseless to me to hype the MR and bring it over here with the same output. I would not pay the extra $$$$$ for what they are offering...

Especially given the improvements made to the 05 STI you think they would at least match thier output...

 

If someone is such a good driver that the weight savings from the aluminum roof (which is the only improvement to the MR Edition that can't be added to an RS or GSR) will make a significant difference in their track times, then they're probably better off getting the RS anyway. They'll likely be modifiying the car significantly, so spending thousands extra on a stock "edition" car just doesn't make a whole lotta sense unless they just have piles of extra cash laying around and reall enjoy extra badging.

MR Edition = tiny improvements, none of which are likely to be very significant on the track over and above what can be accomplished with some comparatively inexpensive aftermarket bits.

chantaiman51: you crack me up...everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion is "unreasonable" or "irrational"...funny stuff.

 

I thought the 6 speed was better at keeping the evo in its powerband. I like how so many of you *****es keep forgetting one aspect or another on the MR "Package". If you have such a ****ing problem with it, then don't get it. If you already have an evo, why bother complaining? There's less reason to be jealous. As cliche as it has become on this forum, this is an EVOLuTION. B1tches.

 

Settle down Beavis... I'm pointing out a glaring ommission, more power. The car doesn't need more luxury and it alrerady handles better than 99.9% of its owners can take advantage of and 100% if you try to do it on the street. What the car needs is more ***** from the factory especially as Subaru turns up the wick and other players may enter the marketplace

 

On the real, the MR is really not worth it. I'd rather dump the additional $$$ in my EVO8 and have MR's for lunch!