Kinda common sense, look for leaks. little leak at idel is prolly going to be a big leak when pressure goes up to 80 psi.

ROAD/RACE

hmmm ok that makes sense and im sure i'll notice **** dripping and what not

Trully a statement from a less knowledgeable source!

FMU failed... hotshot smelled the gas... couldn't find it... detonated... couldn't find problem... smelled the gas... detonated again... still couldn't find the problem... then finally detonated again, found the problem and is now on top of it. Is the motor fine... we'll know more soon but he's going to pull the head to check.

The FMU is an aftermarket product and Vortech will not warranty anything after a very short time since it's such. However RRM and myself have been standing by hotshot's side since all this began and we've been helping him alot. If anything comes out of this it will be RRM's and my dedication to ensuring customers have a great experience with these kits.

Times look dismall but there is light at the end of the tunnel. Trust me. In no way should Vortech be called **** products as their products have been out for a long time and on many vehicles without issue. Instead just learn from this guys.

The biggest thing here is how easy this could have been kept a secret. Myself and RRM don't do that so you are with us everystep of the way. You'll know the full details unlike some other vendors who would have you believe nothing ever goes wrong. Ask yourself, "Do you live in a perfect world?"... most of us know that this isn't true.

Hotshot... keep your spirits up and we'll be beside you everystep to make this as cheap and easy as possible. Just keep me posted.

Everyone else... keep the comments reality based and non-slanderish. There's no need. Instead just watch, listen, and learn. That's what these forums are all about.

Later,
Boe

I bought my RRM stage 2 used and I have had it installed for about 3000 miles now and it's running as great as ever. Havn't had any problems with my fmu or really anything else besides small installation related issues, which we easily fixed after double checking everything. I think it all depends on the luck of the draw. Sometimes parts go bad and if you happen to be one of the unlucky ones, it sucks but it doens't always mean the company is bad. I had a vortec fmu on my turbo crx, and now on my lancer and I had and still have zero problems and zero complaints.

its easy to get pissed at a company when something goes wrong. Realizing that some some products fail is the hardest thing to swallow. What's worse is when you know something is wrong and can't find it... then by the time you do it's to late. It's life, happens everyday, and will never stop till you die.

Just got keep on going...

This worries me also.. Ill be hooking up a stage 1 intercooled turbo that uses the vortech fmu.. I dont want to blow my **** either. Is this just a concern for stage 2 guys or is there something I can do as well to prevent this from happening to me?
-Tyler

Don't go turbo or anything other than stock off the dealer lot... owe wait... those cars still have issues to. But there's a lot slimmer chance. Yeah just stay stock and then there are no worries.

Otherwise trust the 50 + kits out there 15+ stage2's and all the mustang sc kits, as well as mopar sc kits... owe wait there's also edelbrock kits, and wait there's also HANN kits... and wait... do i need to list the thousands of kits out there that all use the Vortech fmu?

Seriously if your that worried just stay stock. If you do go FI then don't trash a vendor or think there stuff is junk especially if you knew there was a problem... kept driving the car hard... still knew there was a problem... kept driving the car hard... then BOOM and it's all Vortechs fault. Nope you should have found and fixed the issue. Hell i've seen guys have cuts in vacuum lines that caused issues and motor damage... so should you go after the company that made the lines or the person that could hear the leak but didn't search hard enough to find it?

I hope in my posts you can see how senseless it is to sweat the vortech FMU... they are as widely used as walbro, RC, Denso, Tein, AGX, etc...

translation: everyone shut up, only boe is allowed to talk


I'm not sure how you can say the vortech unit is NOT a piece of garbage. we always hear bad stories about it screwing up and presenting a very dangerous situation (to your motor that is). sure, the squeaky wheel gets the grease, but still, the vortech units have failed far too many times and are the culprit in far too many problems with these turbo units.

This kit has been out for like 2 years (give or take) and it has been great. But I think its time RRM upgrades some components to address certain issues, mainly the use of the vortech fmu over a fpr or something similar but better. I would also say there is a need for a real turbo manifold, not this header/up pipe/down pipe business.

I'm not blaming RRM here, but I think there is a flaw in the product (being the fmu), so they need to look into revamping the kit. Just a thought



edit: just cause the fmu is good for everyone else, does not necessarily mean its the best choice for our application and car

Glad you went with the SC then... no need for you to worry right.

Translation: Vortech FMU's are fine. If you don't like it then don't buy the kit due to that.

As for developing the kit further... you never know what's in store... well i do but some things are best kept to ourselves.

But since i've got the stage all others should stop posting and just listen to me!!

Thanks for the center stage Greeny... always a pleasure to take the bow and get all the props. When you gonna get a chance to come out to california... dying to meet you. I'll be home visiting relatives in NY next week. You mind driving up/over to Corning, NY to show me your ride? Would really like to meet up with you.

Hey Boe, would a fuel pressure gauge help out at all?

Translation: im gonna kick your ***

but really, you only hear about the problems people have with certain stuff. im sure theres a lot of vortech units on all types of cars in all types of applications so stop trying to use this as a kit to throw rrm under the bus.

and youre pretty quick to point fingers even though you havent had the ripp kit on your car and praise them like your savior. but then again, nothing can ever go wrong with an SC kit because its made of magic and pixie dust.

Boe corning is like 6 hours away from us.. You want to fight a kid on teh forum? settle down boe!

man, i've never even mentioned my sc kit nor have i put down rrm's kit, i'm just saying it appears to me the fmu is the weakest link. and i dont believe i've ever even praised my ripp kit, hell, haven't even talked about it at all yet. crap mark, simmer down now


like ty said, its like 6 hrs away, which is a hefty drive, so you can put the aluminum bat away for now boe, my @ss kicking will have to wait for another day

No... words are being put in my mouth there... it's rare that i'd get the chance to meet some of the guys that have an SC on their cars. They seem to all be on the east coast. 6hrs away is nothing... hell i'm flying over 3000 miles to get there.

Seriously though... greeny doesn't have to worry about it since RIPP doesn't use the vortech right? Greeny i thought you had your kit installed already? If your worried greeny you can bring a couple other people with you.

Please no more than 4 total... i'd like to have a fighting chance.

6 hrs there and 6 hrs back is a 12 hr driving day though man. maybe meet us halfway and we'll consider it

yes, you are correct, ripp uses a rising rate fpr w/ gauge. yes kit is installed, but no, i don't have it back in my hands yet (friday is D-Day)

what date are we talking about here boe? just curious cause i work weekdays (naturally) and a couple of my weekends are taken (helping melaz turbo his car with lively's kit, aka vince's old kit) and some other various stuff

tell ya what: i'll bring 8 midgets. its like 4 tall people, but you have to worry about groin shots more