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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 07:54 PM
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Mike, if you hate Lancers so much, why don't you give up? Seriously. I might complain when something breaks/whatnot, but all you do is say how much you hate your little POS Lancer. Just stop then.
im noticing more and more people saying this in each US lancer thread and i agree with it, but im sorry, but this kind of comment leads to discussion, if your going to complain about someone b!+ching or simply just being retarded, then please do it in a PM, or hell, start your own thread, but not on mine. I've wasted my time complaining about people through threads and its utterly pointless.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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I got my lancer for $9k with 28k miles on it. i want to turbocharge it but between driving to school and work for 2 hours out of my day i couldn't afford any down time due to engine problems.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:30 AM
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Hey isn't Lakeland FL where all the fires were last year?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Just to clarify this... Vizcious had his turbo stuff prior to working for RRM. He purchased it used and then became an employee and installed it at the shop.

He is a true smart shopper and patient... he waited for the used car... he waited for a used kit... hell hes just got a lot of us beat on things since he had the patients to wait.
my bad i forgot that, he bought liquid's kit didnt he? but he bought the stg2 from rrm tho right?

Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Mike, if you hate Lancers so much, why don't you give up? Seriously. I might complain when something breaks/whatnot, but all you do is say how much you hate your little POS Lancer. Just stop then.
doug, out of respect for our friendship im asking you not to touch that please.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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yah... i did buy liquids kit, i actually bought it 1 month before i started working at RRM... funny huh?... then I saved enough to have the install done by boe at RRM, i did that because it was a used kit and actually the second kit ever made... so I wanted to be safe... so all in all i spent about 2200 for liquids kit plus 600 dollars in install and missing parts... i got the whole thing done for 2800, and I have not gotten stage 2 yet... but i am going to soon hopefully or maybe even finish my custom setup
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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ah cool, thats nice working at rrm then. you have learned enough to do the rest of your installs yourself right? its really not that bad doing stuff yourself, except for time and money constraints, i prefer to do it all myself.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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yah... but buying a used kit kinda made me nervous... but then having it installed at RRM, i got all the newest stuff with the turbo kit and threw away the outdated stuff in my turbo kit. So basically i got the second kit ever made but redone with all the newer stuff we use now for all turbo kits.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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Yeah, it's definitly possible!
HA HA HA.

You guys are killing me. First off comparing a used car price to a new one is rather offensive and self defeating.

New Lacer is basicly 16k. New SRT-4 is basicly 21k. The SRT-4 is stated to have 235hp IIRC and is armed with a LSD, excellent suspension and a niffty leather interior. When dyno-d however many find their SRTs to be putting closer to 250hp at the wheels. Why? Its argued Dodge intentialy understated the output to give us cheaper insurance.

So you slam on a turbo for 5,000 and void your warrenty. Now you have a car that cost 21k, still has a crummy stock suspension, interior, no LSD, and if your lucky you have 190hp at the wheels. You would have done better to simply buy any $18-22k sport compact. All the other compacts offer similiar power, improved suspension, warrenties and higher resale.


You buy a SRT-4 at 20, you can expect to sell if a year latter for 17k. You buy a Lancer for 16k, turbo it 5k, now your in for 21k and you sell it a year latter for 12k tops.

Overall a turbo lancer will still not compete in the same league as a WRX, SRT-4, MSP, Evo, RSX, blah blah blah.

It will be a turbo lancer. That presents another problem for me. No matter what you do to the car you will never have a "sports car" it will just be a lancer in about everyones eyes. Kinda like the "Still a Neon" thing. At least Neons have always been strong contenders in Auto-Crossing and Rallye-X events.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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I'm not so sure I like the way you think.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamFlare
I'm not so sure I like the way you think.

Yeah, logic sucks doesnt it.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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I don't disagree... but you have to admit, a fixed up lancer is badass.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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So you slam on a turbo for 5,000 and void your warrenty. Now you have a car that cost 21k, still has a crummy stock suspension, interior, no LSD, and if your lucky you have 190hp at the wheels. You would have done better to simply buy any $18-22k sport compact. All the other compacts offer similiar power, improved suspension, warrenties and higher resale.

You buy a SRT-4 at 20, you can expect to sell if a year latter for 17k. You buy a Lancer for 16k, turbo it 5k, now your in for 21k and you sell it a year latter for 12k tops.
hmm, i bought my car for 14k, i dont have a crummy stock suspension, my warrenty is already gone because its been 3 years, the turbo has a rep of making way more then 190hp....especially when your spending 5 grand, no LSD i will agree with but other then that i guess id over exagerate everything else to get my point across too

oh, and just out of curiosity Garand, what car pretell has a "good" suspension in 18 -22k range, i know your not refering to the SRT4 having a good stock suspension, theres no way youd do that...right?
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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Celicas while slow do a good job handeling. Civic Si has a nice ride but to much understeer. I was uninspired by a WRX, I just adore the RSX. While heavy and piggish the GTI is a damn nice car at 20k, good interior, great power potential (1.8t) and just a dream to shift and drive. Shame the damn thing is so unreliable.

Either way, most sport compacts handel better overall. SVT, SPEC-V, even the Ralliart seemed a bit more "refined". Personaly Ralliart is what the lancer should have been, only at 15k not 20k.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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Celicas while slow do a good job handeling. Civic Si has a nice ride but to much understeer. I was uninspired by a WRX, I just adore the RSX. While heavy and piggish the GTI is a damn nice car at 20k, good interior, great power potential (1.8t) and just a dream to shift and drive. Shame the damn thing is so unreliable.
and not a single car u reffer to is in the range (18 - 22k) like you posted, celica GT/RSX maybe, but GT-S no, RSX type S, no, WRX is around 24, so no GTI's are unbelievably overpriced which justifies them not being in the range of 18-22k, so no again, unless your talking used, then ill agree, but according to the very very first post in which I had made which began this entire thread, i reffered to buying a brand spanking new car so i guess your justification is entirly useless
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:47 PM
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Um, what? Everyone one of those is in the 22k range.

RSX, as tested 21,600
Celcia, as tested 19,100
GTI, 1.8T, as tested around 21,500
GTI starts at 19,000 with a 5spd. Show me another 180hp turbocharged car with as nice an interior and all the standard options for 19k. Not to mention you chip it and BAM well over 200hp.

WRX, as tested 24,7ish
Sold to a friends co-worker for 21,9ish
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If your buying a Brand new car, and your considering buying a Lancer then Turboing it, that is plain stupid. Sorry, it is. So many better cars out their that respond better to upgrades, have more upgrades and perform just leaps-and-bounds better. There is a reason why the Lancer isnt a hit sport compact.
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