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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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Nobody knows if the lancer's CVT can handle a large boost in HP because it uses a rather weak belt to run and is very complicated, meaning more delicate and easily breakable parts.
Who defines it as "rather weak"??? It's a freaking steel belt. Are you calling it weak, or has someone else done this and you're quoting?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Most of the articles that I have read say to avoid the CVT.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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The Evo will not have a CVT. Also, I'd stop short of saying the Evo's engine will be identical. You can be sure the cams will be different, and I'd bet the pistons/rods will be different, too.
well as far as the evo having the cvt, thats my bad. but the engine will be just about the same minus all the obvious 'beefer' parts which i failed to mention in my last post because i thought that was a given?

but for now i'll just wait and see what the cvt can actually handle. 250+ hp would be good enough for me. although the awd would be very nice to have but the evo x is sick looking and i might just have to start saving now. but i'm happy with my gts
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dsrttigr
yea i got the gts to have a good trade in on the evo x in a year, i knew it would be expensive so im getting prepared. but i hope the cvt can handle 250+ for fun in the mean time.
Same here. The trade in value with a dealership's own car is of high value. Not from another brand.
I invested in the GTS simply when the EVO comes out, the trade in for EVO with my GTS should be substantial.

That's why I made sure it was fully loaded.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SeRious08
Most of the articles that I have read say to avoid the CVT.
Not that I know what I'm talking about any more than them, but I tend to not put much faith in that. It's a new system in a brand new car. It's no doubt been through extensive testing by . I cannot believe that we're all going to have our CVTs fall apart like magic. Until real long-term testing happens, I'm just going to believe in what I have. If something goes wrong, I have a 100k mile warranty that gives me a new tranny.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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^+1, go go 10/100!!!!! and like i said in a previous post, mitsu and other car companies wouldnt build a tranny that couldnt take a whoopin, just a matter of how much. so one of these days we shall see.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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well i guess if people are already spitting on my GTS it must mean that its so good looking its making everyone jealous for a hundred miles, so that will tell you how sick the evo x will look. i just wish people would grow some ***** and try doing that while im looking. i still think the cvt will be tougher than everyone says. about the manual paddle shifters do they use the cvt transmission or a different set of gears?

if you put a turbo in say at about 300hp and you put in manual / paddle shifters mode only, would that do less damage to the cvt or more?

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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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CVT does not have gears, dsrttigr. The "manual" mode just sets the CVT system to 6 preset levels (or "gears"). The internal works of the CVT look like this (kinda, it's an illustration from Honda's version).



The "gearing" is changed by the two pulleys moving.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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so it would probally do more damage then lol
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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good diagram sheep.
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 11:58 PM
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so it would probally do more damage then lol
If I had to guess, I'd say "yes." Gotta figure that when the pulleys are locked into place, the more HP, the more damage you can do. At least when they're in CVT mode, there's a possibility of slippage...
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DoHBoY
^+1, go go 10/100!!!!! and like i said in a previous post, mitsu and other car companies wouldnt build a tranny that couldnt take a whoopin, just a matter of how much. so one of these days we shall see.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Look at all the synchro issues that Mitsu trannies have that they don't like to cover under warranty.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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My question is how much power does anyone anticpate that a CVT can hold? That to me is the main question on the Lancer. I am hearing twice the power, I am hearing up till like 200 hp. I just want more power to justify the weight of the car.

On the intake and the exhaust, what kind of gain on HP are they getting from RRM?

I have the CVT model and I am hoping that it can hold 200hp. That's probably all I am looking for. Anything more might be dangerous.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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We're not going to know until someone gives it a shot.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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dammit. Someone do it already!!
lol
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