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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 09:47 AM
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Its your car, your money, Do as you please but Please yourself before you try to please others.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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dude i doubt a corvette took you serious you probably just drove by him all fast and said you won cus trust me i have driven a corvette and its a beast its a race car and it doesnt matter who is driving if a corvette was really racing you would of got smoked good driver or not!

Sigh... When I get back from dinner I'll post some links of how crazy some of these cars can get on stock vette's, gto's, challengers... The majority of people that buy vettes don't mod them. Owning a vette is more of a status symbol.

Off topic but I was driving around and some dude in a Maserati was playing with my *** so bad. I let him because I mean c'mon... It's a Maserati.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:57 PM
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lol a turbo lancer taking a vette? i had a zo6 prom weekend..trust me..theyre no joke
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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maybe I should have clarified. I was talking about GTI's Civics and those cars. I know for a fact a lancer won't take a vette.
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayhem7o2
Sigh... When I get back from dinner I'll post some links of how crazy some of these cars can get on stock vette's, gto's, challengers... The majority of people that buy vettes don't mod them. Owning a vette is more of a status symbol.

Off topic but I was driving around and some dude in a Maserati was playing with my *** so bad. I let him because I mean c'mon... It's a Maserati.
I call absolute BS on this one, if it's a somewhat new Corvette (ie. C6 or C5), there's no way a Lancer is going to touch it. He wasn't actually racing.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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Why cant we just get along and be a lancer community here. Amby can you please try not to berate lancers. thanks.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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because you guys are not being realistic and in some fantasy world
i understand the defensiveness because its what we own, but really...
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Defcon5Es
Why cant we just get along and be a lancer community here. Amby can you please try not to berate lancers. thanks.
Yeah I sure am berating lancers because I don't think they're in the same league as an Evo or a Corvette. Please, I'm just being realistic rather than head in the clouds naive.
Edit: Read my post again
What do you mean "league"? A Lancer with a turbo kit isn't in the same league as an Evo, sorry but it's not. Sure you might be as fast in a straight line but you don't have the same level of traction, the same handling, the same braking ability, etc. Moreover, all the Evo guy has to do is get a TBE and a tune and you have to spend another 5000$ just to keep up. Mod your car to make you happy, not to be something it's not. A Lancer with a turbo kit can be a really fun car but it's no Evo/STI/IS300.
How exactly is the bold part "berating"?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I call absolute BS on this one, if it's a somewhat new Corvette (ie. C6 or C5), there's no way a Lancer is going to touch it. He wasn't actually racing.
So what your saying is that everyone that buys a Corvette knows how to drive or in fact race? I doubt that very much, just because you have the money to buy a car that is fast and handles great doesn't mean you have the skill to handle or control said car.

Case in point the guy that had the WS6 that I dusted in the Auto Cross had the problem of pulling out of a turn and roasting the tires off. Therefore a car with much more HP then my car lost to it in time.

The driver has a lot to do with if you can win a race even in a straight line, a mis-shift can turn a 10sec car into a 12+ sec car.

Originally Posted by Mayhem7o2
maybe I should have clarified. I was talking about GTI's Civics and those cars. I know for a fact a lancer won't take a vette.
Really there isn't much difference in my old 01 GTi then this car in fact the Lancer has a better suspension set up in the rear. I would say that a Lancer would be able to out handle a GTi, and with the mods out now you should be able to get a lancer to 200hp or close to that. So I'm not sure how you know for a fact a Lancer won't take a Vette?
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sileighty95
So what your saying is that everyone that buys a Corvette knows how to drive or in fact race? I doubt that very much, just because you have the money to buy a car that is fast and handles great doesn't mean you have the skill to handle or control said car.

Case in point the guy that had the WS6 that I dusted in the Auto Cross had the problem of pulling out of a turn and roasting the tires off. Therefore a car with much more HP then my car lost to it in time.

The driver has a lot to do with if you can win a race even in a straight line, a mis-shift can turn a 10sec car into a 12+ sec car.



Really there isn't much difference in my old 01 GTi then this car in fact the Lancer has a better suspension set up in the rear. I would say that a Lancer would be able to out handle a GTi, and with the mods out now you should be able to get a lancer to 200hp or close to that. So I'm not sure how you know for a fact a Lancer won't take a Vette?
If you're doing a stupid street race, there's not a whole lot of skill involved, you stamp the gas and go (since it will likely be from a roll anyways). This argument doesn't work anyways, it doesn't make the car in question (say a Lancer) better, it simply means the other driver sucked. A bone stock Civic can beat a Viper if the Viper driver stalls constantly.
Compare the stats of a Lancer with that of a Corvette, they're not even close. That's how I know a Lancer won't take a Vette in a fair fight.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I call absolute BS on this one, if it's a somewhat new Corvette (ie. C6 or C5), there's no way a Lancer is going to touch it. He wasn't actually racing.
If you look up at my last post I clarified that I was talking about GTI's and Civic's and those kinda cars, not the lancer. I know the lancer couldn't touch a c6...
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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Even GTIs and Civics would be a stretch. An older Civic with a swap and other work, maybe, but a current Civic making the same kind of power as a turboed Lancer, no way.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sileighty95
Really there isn't much difference in my old 01 GTi then this car in fact the Lancer has a better suspension set up in the rear. I would say that a Lancer would be able to out handle a GTi, and with the mods out now you should be able to get a lancer to 200hp or close to that. So I'm not sure how you know for a fact a Lancer won't take a Vette?
What your talking about is racing a ****ty driver... Who gives a crap if you raced a c*** driver!? Take it to the local track and race it on the strip. I go to my strip almost every weekend just to watch and I see Boss's, Cobra's, Z28's, Z06's, etc. etc. A turbo 08+ lancer WILL not hit a 13 sec 1/4 or lower like the vettes, vipers, and other muscles will. People need to get it through their head that the lancer is not a competitor against these cars. Race a Cobalt LT, Mazda 3's, Corolla's... Even turbo you're only pushing 230hp so you can now compete with lightly modded srt-4's, b-18 civic's, cobalt ss's... I've seen GTI's achieve awesome things but that's because they are performance oriented and our lancer isn't. If you want to take on vette's than you need to consider getting another car.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Even GTIs and Civics would be a stretch. An older Civic with a swap and other work, maybe, but a current Civic making the same kind of power as a turboed Lancer, no way.
Wait, I'm lost... what I am saying is GTI's and Civics actually have to potential to compete with vette's. Yes you need some pretty heavy modification work to get the car to that point but the lancer would need custom forged internals, big turbo, LSD's, and that's only scraping mods off the top of my head. My point is if people wanted to compete with the high end muscles than they need to consider getting a different car. If you are content with 230-250bhp than the lancer can do that. But for anything over 300whp than you definitely need a different car.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayhem7o2
Wait, I'm lost... what I am saying is GTI's and Civics actually have to potential to compete with vette's. Yes you need some pretty heavy modification work to get the car to that point but the lancer would need custom forged internals, big turbo, LSD's, and that's only scraping mods off the top of my head. My point is if people wanted to compete with the high end muscles than they need to consider getting a different car. If you are content with 230-250bhp than the lancer can do that. But for anything over 300whp than you definitely need a different car.
I think to seriously compete with a Vette (a C6), the GTI and the Civic SI (since you mentioned it being more performance oriented) would need similar mods to the Lancer. Granted you are starting off with a better platform but even then, a GTI would need a bigger turbo which would likely require internals, head work and maybe even tranny work. Same goes for the Civic. For a daily driver, a turboed Lancer can be great, it'll be reasonably quick without being crazy, reliable and fuel efficient.
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