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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I think to seriously compete with a Vette (a C6), the GTI and the Civic SI (since you mentioned it being more performance oriented) would need similar mods to the Lancer. Granted you are starting off with a better platform but even then, a GTI would need a bigger turbo which would likely require internals, head work and maybe even tranny work. Same goes for the Civic. For a daily driver, a turboed Lancer can be great, it'll be reasonably quick without being crazy, reliable and fuel efficient.
I agree, I'm just trying to say the lancer doesn't have the parts that would be needed to compete with the corvette and the GTI's and Si's do have the parts. None the less, I personally would never use any FF I4 300+whp car as a daily driver... I bought my lancer for reliability and a warranty so I wouldn't have to spend all my free time on weekends repairing a car. Personally I feel 250whp on a FF is a good amount especially if you are using it as a DD. A lot of people on the Lancer forums need to be more realistic about what they can achieve with this car.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Fair enough, I still disagree somewhat that the GTI or SI are better equipped given the task at hand but I can see where you're coming from.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayhem7o2
A lot of people on the Lancer forums need to be more realistic about what they can achieve with this car.
Good luck with that.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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thats not too bad considering if you buy a DE for 14g's and drop 5 g's for a turbo you'll be able to keep up with a wrx
WHY even bother? Just buy a used e8 or e9 and problem solved and money saved. Unless you just wanna fit in with the "cool kids" and roll with the new evo X look. Hey, that's just MY opinion though. Surely you can find a used e8 or e9 for around the same or less? Here's a link for several e8's that I found on ebay http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Cars-Tru...Q2em282?_rdc=1. They only had 1 evo 9 and it was priced @ 25k

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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Fair enough, I still disagree somewhat that the GTI or SI are better equipped given the task at hand but I can see where you're coming from.
I personally think Si's are overrated and slow! lol
Beat a 08 pretty bad and a Gsr Dc also .
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 09:57 PM
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In your 02? That doesn't make sense.
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Yea in my 02 . I also beat my Gf's slightly modded 08
I can get video's to prove it , and no i'm not a typical ricer that say's he beats everyone by doing fly by's
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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I really doubt it, if it was an SI, it has 70 HP on a Lancer. If you're turboed, that's a different story.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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yeah i hate how everyone makes an SI seem like some kinda super car it has almost as much torque as our lancers so how can it be that much better and especially the 09 that is detuned with less hp
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Let's do a comparison then.

2009 Honda Civic SI

HP: 197
Torque: 139
Redline: 8000
Transmission: 6-speed manual
LSD: Yes
Curb weight: 2899 lbs
Weight-to-power ratio: 14.7 lbs per HP
C&D 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: 6.7 and 15.1


2009 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

HP: 168
Torque: 167
Redline: 6500
Transmission: 5-speed manual
LSD: No
Curb weight: 3043
Weight-to-power ratio: 18.1 lbs per HP
C&D 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: 7.X (based on a 7.8 second time for the 2008 CVT GTS model) and 15.9

On a track, the SI would kill the Lancer because it weighs less, has more power, more gears and an LSD.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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How about on a track that isn't straight. No even counting the fact that the SI is a coupe and the lancer is a sedan, so in my mind that isn't really even a fair comparison.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by EngRWW33
How about on a track that isn't straight. No even counting the fact that the SI is a coupe and the lancer is a sedan, so in my mind that isn't really even a fair comparison.
On a track with corners, the SI would bend the Lancer over and defile it, it wouldn't be pretty. The SI comes in a sedan form as well.
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 01:53 PM
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as said before you cant really compare the two. nobody is on hondas ***** or anything but the Si is overall the better car.and you simply cant compare the two because it beats the lancer in almost every category. just like the cobalt SS, im no chevy fan neither will i probably ever own an american car but the new SS TC is an amazing car..it even gives evos and stis a hard time around the track so ill give credit where its due but you simply cant compare them..as been stated before if you want go fast..you got the wrong car..
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Let's do a comparison then.

2009 Honda Civic SI

HP: 197
Torque: 139
Redline: 8000
Transmission: 6-speed manual
LSD: Yes
Curb weight: 2899 lbs
Weight-to-power ratio: 14.7 lbs per HP
C&D 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: 6.7 and 15.1


2009 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

HP: 168
Torque: 167
Redline: 6500
Transmission: 5-speed manual
LSD: No
Curb weight: 3043
Weight-to-power ratio: 18.1 lbs per HP
C&D 0-60 and 1/4 mile times: 7.X (based on a 7.8 second time for the 2008 CVT GTS model) and 15.9

On a track, the SI would kill the Lancer because it weighs less, has more power, more gears and an LSD.
Actually just to clear the weight to power ratio for the lancer its 19.3
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I rechecked the math, it's 18.1.
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