Its hard to argue with what RRM has done and the time and money that they have put into aftermarket parts for the Lancer. You are more then welcome to test and try new ideas for making power but i prefer to learn from someone elses mistakes and save myself a few $ in the process. When you see the video of those guys and the ruined rods in their hands i am really glad that that is not me.

 

yeah yeah yeah

Here they come.

WADAD

 

lol all i know is my turbo kit and headers were 1500, my intercooler was 200, my i mani 50, my tb 50, etc etc

 

yes rrm had put time and money for the lancer. Ripp was trying to do so also. When i spoke to Ross on the fone this morning, he told me that he didn't care how much it cost to make the sds kit for the lancer where Ripp really didin't make any profit, it cost like around 18k to fabricate the system and he told me there are 10 sold int he country. . he was a lil annoyed how people wanted them to make a kit and Ripp went and created one just like any other company would when the demand is there. than all the sudden people started backing down because of those who had bashed on it before the product came out.. look at all thos threads where people couldn't wait till the kit came out.. just look its ridicoulus how many pple replied, than certain few Rrm biased ruined it for Ripp never giving them a chance. it annoys me too. honostly guys do u like to pull up next to another lancer who has all the same mods u do, all coming from RRM. thats y i chosed a different route. i have very limited RRm parts, prob just the front strut, sway perches. prob thats it. There are many ways to go faster other than rrm. So when pple r mentioning that RIPP is running away from the lancer, think again. lets say Ripp fabricated all the parts for the lancer, everyone was buyin whatever from Ripp than rrm came out, they want to promote there new turbo kit. but someone like me who supports Ripp will bash on the company for tryin to do something for the people out there. its just wrong.

 

I've been busy lately, but I promise an independent Dyno and a 1/4 mile timeslip in the spring. BlazenOZ is the guy with 35K on his kit, I have a little over 11k and still going strong.

 

I personally dont have any problems with ripp save one. The need for a header with the SDS. I do not want to be throwing a CEL when i go to have my emmisions done because i will fail. I also do not want to be pulling off the supercharger and removing the header in order to pass. In terms of the actual company i am biased towords RRM because of their dedication to the Lancer. As much as i like the company i would reccomend some one else if someone wanted parts for a WRX or a SRT-4. There are companies out there that specilize in those cars. Just like ripp specilizes in 3rd gen eclipse's and tibbys. That is the main reason that i am biased for the lancer.

 

The mirage guys have learned from their past mistakes. We have been banding together model-wise from 94 to now defunct mirages, lesser extent to earlier 3g mirage/summit (they have their own site on www.4g61t.com)

The thing: everyone was doing their own thing from NOS to TC and infinite amount of tuning experience and mishaps. Now, for the past 3-4 years, I haven't heard any mirages blowing up from poor tuning. Yes, we experiemented w/ a lot of things from Mitsu parts bin to some civic aftermarket stuff. This ranged from NA to TC . . . RPW was our only lead in R&D, but the long waiting period is just a killer for any notion of customer support or loyalty. About 30% of our knowledge is given or proven by RPW, because they had laid the groundwork. It's up to us, miragers, to double check those findings.

moral of the story: past miragers would know this. In the US, NO ONE supported us in any R&D. We had to learn things the hard, freelance way. When we started to hear reports that in PR people were running crazy times in their mirages. No one believed them, because some mods were like urban legends (doesn't add up). Now, in the past 2-3 years, we are getting better info and now vids (best form of proof).

 

Wasnt it easier to swap a 4g63 in a mirage than to work on a 4g93? or am i retarded?

 

Well said.



Dont want to call you retarded lol.... it is as easy (or as difficult) as swapping into a 4G94 for the 97 - 02 boys. the 93 - 96 boys had this option; still it was / is not an "easy" swap. just ask any lancer guy who did the Evo swap.

 

If this was true or easy as H&A swaps, there would be a slew of 5g mirages w/ DSM swaps, and they would force DSMs towards extinction, especially 2g DSMs suffering from crankwalk.

 

Thank you. This i did not know. i respect what the mirage guys have done. Still this is the reason that i am biased to RRM. With what has been learned from RRM and thier products on hand you can make more power or what have you, through modification or tweaking. There is no point in going and reinventing the wheel unless you are a glutton for punishment. This plus the fact that RRM is dedicated to the Lancer platform is the reason that i believe that RRM is the better product.

 

This is also the reason that Ripp doesnt have the following that RRM has. I still havent heard much about the kits aside from promises.

 

what would u like to know, its hard when the people who have the kits rn't on this board and have tight schedules, yes rrm came out real fast with numbers and everything but its different for every company, some gets luckier than others, if everyone is just waiting to c what other pple do than where will it start. it makes no sense for everyone to hang around and wait, its not the sellers fault, the demand was there so Ripp mad the kit and they got screwed over. if the world works like that, waiting to c what other people do, than we would go nowhere in life, u gotta understand that concept, we can't wait till blazinoz, or fkrzo or I to have numbers, they have there own reasons but mine, i'm 17 i'm in skool, i'm in the stage where i decide which college i go to, i work and i play sports, its just hard. what haven't u heard about the kits besides the promises? id on't understand, there no promises everything is done and out there.

 

blazin OZ currently goes to school and works 2 jobs...and i kno him pretty well...he never has time to go online. Second...The RIPP Kit is very good...i had da luxury in driving and riding in both the RRM kit and Ripps kit...and the reason why i chose the RIPP kit was how the power really kicked when u stepp on the gas....and of course the customer satisfaction from ROSS and his Crew at his shop which i still visit when i pass through...great guys over there...

and if you didnt know....why RIPP hasnt been on the forums because ROSS and his wife jus had a KID....

 

I am not accusing Ripp of have a poor product. Its just a little questionable why they do not hype that product more. Get the word out. Get people asking questions. That is how you generate interest. This is why i do not think that Ripp is really dedicated to the Lancer platform. There is no hyping of the product. Im not saying that that is a problem. He is probably more than satisified with the business he gets from the 3rd gen eclipse and tibby guys. Heck ive even heard good things about the Galant work that he does. But i dont think that the Lancer is his priority. And thats fine. Just dont get worked up when everyone on the board hypes RRM. They are dedicated to the Lancer platform. It is their priority. If their products dont sell they dont have another platform to fall back on. So they push their products and get the word out. They make people ask the questions. Ask Boe. He gets the same questions all the time. But that generates customers.