hey eric,
why dont you buy two sets and put one up front and one in hte back.

 

Putting them in back with no covers or transparent covers is just asking for them to be ruined quickly I'd estimate. Unless you've got a strong tint, the sun is likely to really disintegrate the cone materials over time.
-N

 

haha.. i just got a ticket for my tint.. haha it was like 4.. tim.. i didnt buy this set... i won them from blaupunkt's web page.. put my email in and they said i won the contest and would recieve free speakers! free=good!!

 

so now you only have to buy one set.

 

Not true. First of all your ears are on the sides of your head. Therefore, sound directly from the sides will sound clearer. However, this only matters for the high and mid range frequencies. As far as the low end goes, it does not matter were it is located. Generally the more distance you have between your ears and the subs, the more developed the low end will be. For instance, the distance between one peak and the next can be several hundred feet. If you don't have that kind of distance, you don't hear that frequency. This is why sub cabinets are designed the way they are, the wave travels a good distance inside the cabinet...

As for that being the reason the speaker cabinets are in front in a concert.... ever heard of feedback? Also it wouldn't focus your attention to the stage if the music came from behind. Thats actually a good reason to have the speakers in front, to focus your attention to the front of your car....and the road.

Sorry, hope this didn't sound to bitter... im not in a good mood right now for other reasons....

 

okay simple physics and soundwaves says that waves from in front of you and further away sound better. it doesnt matter where your ears are located that has nothing to do with this. read a book or something and you will learn what i am talking about. and i am not trying to sound like an ***, i am trying to teach you so you dont sound like an *** anymore.

 

Yes, your ears are on the sides of your head, but the shape of your ears and the very subtle timing between sound reaching each ear are used by your brain to locate sounds within your field of senses. And in general, it's better to hear sound from in front of you than to your sides or to the rear. Technically, it's possible to have sound only at each side of your head perfectly immerse you as sound from anywhere, but applying the filters to the sound necessary to make it sound like it's from elsewhere is a very complex processing task and it's far easier just to put the speakers there.

When you're talking about missing frequencies due to the lack of hundreds of feet between you and the speaker, you're losing sounds that the sub probably can't reproduce and you definitely can't hear.

Feedback doesn't happen at a real concert because of proper equalizing. Have you ever even done professional sound? You can put the mic right in front of the speakers at a concert and yell into it without generating any feedback if the system is EQ'd properly (though hopefully wearing ear protection given your position).

It did, and largely because you answered incorrectly and spread a few fallacies about sound.

Regardless of all this, I do prefer sound from all 4 corners in my car, because I like the feeling of immersion more that way. In a concert setting, sound from in front only is something I see as a distraction breaker. Having sound from behind would be odd when the source of the sound is in front and aside from that, it would be impossible to keep the rears and fronts in time sync throughout the whole crowd - someone's gonna be hearing an echo. Front and rears only a few feet from each in a car doesn't generate the half or more seconds of delay between sets of speakers hundreds of yards away from each other.
-N

 

Im not sure im following you here. Its not necisarily better, its just that we preffer to look at what we are listening to. Also, headphones work that way...ever listen to a really good pair? They do a very nice job of emmersing you.


Just an example, i realize that hundreds of feet is a bit of an exageration. However the theory is sound..

This i believe is a bit of an exageration or your part. You put a mic right in front of a speaker at high volume, the EQ doesn't effect enough of a decible range to keep it from feeding back.
Oh, and yes.

Agreed, our ears are not capable of hearing as small a delay as there would be inside a car. With the exception of being able to tell direction, but not the slight phase shift.... hmmm something to think about.

 

Yes. Remember, I prefer an immersed sound, butmy point was that concerts are played from the front because it's an awkward thing to hear sound from a direction other than the obvious source - the stage.

[QUOTE=Marzochi]Just an example, i realize that hundreds of feet is a bit of an exageration. However the theory is sound..
Theory yes, practice no. Hundreds of feet isn't that unrealistic. What is unrealistic is that you can hear that. But also consider that sound is a pressure in the air, not technically a sinusoidal wave. Your ears are detecting the changes of pressure in the air - you don't need to be able to experience the entire wave at once, just the pressure changes as they travel by you.

This isn't an exagerration. This is the easier way to EQ a set of stage speakers, should you not mind the risk to your ears if it rings. Hold the mic in front of the speaker and pull any frequencies that ring. Eventually, you'll have them EQ'd. It's just preferable to do it by accurate sound reproduction in the ears.
Oh, an no. You haven't or this would have been obvious.

-N

 

woah a lot of people talking about sound waves and all...not my scale. but ya if your going to put them in the front put the front ones in the back. i noticed on mine(ES) that the fronts sorrounding is rubber and the backs are paper. so obviously the fronts have better material and are better quality so yea go for it... but i noticed when i put pioneers in da back n stock in da front it sounded cleaner like sorround soundish cuz bass was more up there and clarity in back. so it even'd out. try em both out and see what youlike better. it will only take a little bit of time out of your life. hope this helps.