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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:01 PM
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JL audio makes a 4 channel amp for about 400 dollar range that would probably work pretty well for running the 4 mid's and tweeters. 75 watts RMS to each speaker which is more than double what the actual RMS that your deck would power them at.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:12 PM
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you will need to measure the hole depth in the door to determine if kick panels are needed. in the rear the hole is ACTUALLY 7"!! i got 3 sets of 6 1/2's all with adapters & none of them fit. a plate will have to be fabbed to get the nest seal. i would go with 1 15" due to the box size you will need. 2 12's will fit between the rear wheelwells just fine. also if you do 1 15", you could use the spare tire area as an enclosure spot for the sub (provided the sub is not too tall like a jl audio 13W7). kick panels will sound best but cost the most. i know Boston makes some pretty shallow speakers & they sound badasss. me personally, i would go with Dynaudio 3 way with the 7" sub in the door, mid/tweet in kicks & a 12 or 15" sub. i wouldn't use a rear speaker as the front soundstage will be very loud (200 watts rms continuous)
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentinal
JL audio makes a 4 channel amp for about 400 dollar range that would probably work pretty well for running the 4 mid's and tweeters. 75 watts RMS to each speaker which is more than double what the actual RMS that your deck would power them at.
Which would in turn make the system louder right???

I think I am getting this equation worked out in my mind hehe
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by housedj
you will need to measure the hole depth in the door to determine if kick panels are needed. in the rear the hole is ACTUALLY 7"!! i got 3 sets of 6 1/2's all with adapters & none of them fit. a plate will have to be fabbed to get the nest seal. i would go with 1 15" due to the box size you will need. 2 12's will fit between the rear wheelwells just fine. also if you do 1 15", you could use the spare tire area as an enclosure spot for the sub (provided the sub is not too tall like a jl audio 13W7). kick panels will sound best but cost the most. i know Boston makes some pretty shallow speakers & they sound badasss. me personally, i would go with Dynaudio 3 way with the 7" sub in the door, mid/tweet in kicks & a 12 or 15" sub. i wouldn't use a rear speaker as the front soundstage will be very loud (200 watts rms continuous)
Errmm lol okay I'll be honest here.. I'm knew at the wholemod thing.... I just watch people doing so the slang frontstage and all are all greek to me I understand what your going at... so you don't think two 15s will fit in the back there or??? heh

***is vrey confused right now****
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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yea it would power the speakers how they were meant to be powered. The amp in your deck if its rated at 60 watts thats peak so RMS watts is more like 27-28 Good amps are usually measured in RMS watts I know JL is so 75 watts is well above 2x the power which would help to ballance your system out because running 600 watts to a sub then deck power to speakers is way out of ballance 300 watts to speakers and 600 to the sub will sound much better. Also I would consider just using 1 of the 15's and the 600 watt amp to power it. A 15" sub will take up a good amount of trunk space as is with a good enclosure 2 of them I dont' think will even fit between the wheel wells not to mention you would need another amp and then your back to having a system that is way out of ballance. (1200+ to sub 300 to mids)
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sentinal
yea it would power the speakers how they were meant to be powered. The amp in your deck if its rated at 60 watts thats peak so RMS watts is more like 27-28 Good amps are usually measured in RMS watts I know JL is so 75 watts is well above 2x the power which would help to ballance your system out because running 600 watts to a sub then deck power to speakers is way out of ballance 300 watts to speakers and 600 to the sub will sound much better. Also I would consider just using 1 of the 15's and the 600 watt amp to power it. A 15" sub will take up a good amount of trunk space as is with a good enclosure 2 of them I dont' think will even fit between the wheel wells not to mention you would need another amp and then your back to having a system that is way out of ballance. (1200+ to sub 300 to mids)
OKAY OKAY,

So I ahve 1 15 now.. I'll sell the other one I'll need another amp... so all in all I'll end having two amps... What would you recommend??? with what I have...

1 15
4 3-way infinities kappa series 6.35i
2 1in tweets


I'll use the 600 300s to power the one sub

from what I understand I need to get another amp to power the 4 speakers.. and the two tweets...

my question is.. what will the H/U amp power???
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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the H/U amp will not really be used the preouts from the deck will go dirrectly to the other amplifiers the H/U amp isn't as clean anyway and is very low power for good speakers your deck has 3 preouts right? send the first preout to the front set of speakers (through the amp the 2nd to the rear then the 3rd preout should be labled for subs but if not thats the signal you want to send to your subs.

everything looks good you could set up a nice display in the back with the 15" sub in the middle and the amps mounted vertically on either side of it that would look sweet! and it would be easy access to the amps to make any needed ajustments
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Link286XT
heaven =)
rofl yes??/ its heavenbkwrds...
its a funny oxymoron,,, you are in trouble when heaven gets backwards.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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oohh I want a evo so bad Sential your ride looks sweet!! I love your setup in the back thats is gourgous as hell!!! errmmm did you do it yourself??? and if so how long did it take, and was it hard... peeps are saying use my spare tire tub to house my sub... if i do that lol where do I put the spare tire and all??i 'll put in my back seat haha!!! okay so ermmm... from the preouts... I'll place the 1st preout to my other amp... (that JL one you were talking about, you thinky ou can get me a link to it???) to the front speakers as well as take the rear deck and run them off of the amp as well.. the 3rd preout is to the sub... (300s) ermmm so where the tweets come in? where do I run those off of??
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Save some $$$$, get a good 2 channel amp to run hte front speakers and run your rear "fill" speakers with the 20 watts from the deck. Use the front preout and you still have fader ability.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BillAce
Save some $$$$, get a good 2 channel amp to run hte front speakers and run your rear "fill" speakers with the 20 watts from the deck. Use the front preout and you still have fader ability.

And just keep the rest the same??? that sounds like a idea...
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Ok...I'm back.

First, thanks Sentinal for being on the same page as me. You finished up all of the thoughts I was having from before.

Nevaeh, I have a question for you...do you have people riding in the back of your car very often? If so, do you care how it sounds to them? The reason I ask is, I'm not a big fan of rear fill speakers. If you think about it, at a concert the sound is in front of you, right? Well, that is how it should be reproduced in a car as well. Now, some people totally disagree with this concept, but I personally wouldn't have it any other way. You pretty much can't help but have a sub in the back, because they're freakin' large. lol. With this in mind, here is what I would do.....

~Head unit powering nothing because it is not clean power.
~A good 4 channel amp to run all of the front speakers. That way, you can control your 6 1/2" and your tweeters seperately. With that control, you can get a better blend...instead of your tweeters being overpowering. Ya know what I mean?
~Your existing amp running 1 15" sub.
~Whipped cream and a cherry on top. done.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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No I don't really have very many people riding in the back and if they do... they aren't there for long... heh as you and I dknow lol there isn't much room back there but then again there is... (lancers are werid about that) but, lets go with the 4 channel amp what kind of amp would you guys recommend??? bear in mind.. the max on the speakers I think is 225 or something... and that sub can handle... well your guess is as good as mine...


Black, heh I tried to take out a pillar and boy oh boy lol that proves to be a feat in its self... (plus Ihad to deal with Ivan as well) but umm... as far as concert sound goes... thats is excatly what I want i want crips loud balanced sound... and as minimal rattling as possible (worry about that later) If I use the spare tire housing for a mount... where will I put the spare at??? or will I be able to put it there.. errmm my older brother did a system with 6 Memphis Audio 15's and 8 Memphis Audio 10's that crap hit so hard its insane... but sounded very well.. ermmm.. don't know what he had behind it... but what I'm getting at he had some caps on there.. and I remember you guys telling me I would need one... where would i the cap up? and where would I find one???
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by black03oz
Nevaeh, I have a question for you...do you have people riding in the back of your car very often? If so, do you care how it sounds to them? The reason I ask is, I'm not a big fan of rear fill speakers. If you think about it, at a concert the sound is in front of you, right? Well, that is how it should be reproduced in a car as well. Now, some people totally disagree with this concept, but I personally wouldn't have it any other way. You pretty much can't help but have a sub in the back, because they're freakin' large. lol. With this in mind, here is what I would do.....
errmm I didn't read it right.. well I would like the sound to be same throughout the car... but I want it to be insane in the front seats... I know it will be a little messed up in back but hey thats fine they are there for long hehe
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