ok i was doing some surfing and finally found a link to this article.

http://www.aempower.com/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=4

relevance to the 4B11??? well the RSX was one of the first to get the K series motors, and as you may know they switched the motor around with the exhaust facing the firewall, just like the 4B11! so intake issues are the same with the whole filter placement and cold air vs hot air debate. i think this article touches on a lot of points that are always debated and GENERALLY is a good guide to see what kinda numbers you can get from a properly designed intake on a properly design high output 2L I4.

ok yeah i know the 4B11 is nowhere near as "good" an engine STOCK as the K20A, BUT there are inferences that you can draw from this test that may be relevant to the 4B11.

ok ok yeah i know the article is OLD, but the issues at hand seem to be relevant and just goes to show you how LONG these issues have been talked about. there's tons of info about how to tune the old 4G mitsu motors, but turn that engine around and all of a sudden these issues that have been discussed at length 5 years ago in the honda community come up here.

ok ok ok yeah the article makes no mention of the whole sucking up water with cai issue BUT that is a personal choice. i'm sure there are people here in dry climates that don't need water/flood protection as much as there are people who have a large concern for it.

discuss

 

END IT NOW, END IT , just pull the pistol out and take it behind the thread. Better yet use a AK47 Counter Strike Style.

Everything I have seen in my life shows CAI leads as the better option and leads to better optimization options. Gives you better low and high end. Vs. SRI a overal gain thru out the RPM Band.

Alot of it is going to be the car the engine and the design of the pipe, but overall, I generally see CAI win out or even up against SRIs, with a heatshield or without.

But as I said in all my other posts, you will find somoene who swears by one or the other.

only way to sold this for our car engine is to do a shoot out. pick a INJEN SET and a AEM Set and lets fight it out. Get it over with. I hate even hearing the INJEN and AEM debate too.

First person that starts flaming one way or another is going to get a "Counter Strike Spray and Pray with a AK47"
lol

 

What's to discuss? Most people accept that CAI is a generally stronger option. SRI and CAI each have strong points and weak points.

Until someone makes a CAI for the Lancer, this thread is 100% pointless.

 

aw c'mon sheep. i don't think this thread is worthless. there are still posts talking about RRM SRI vs waiting for CAI. there is still discussion of underhood temps and there is still discussion about filter placement of the SRI and heat shields and the whole nine yards. people are still talking about these issues that K20 tuners have dealt with 5 years ago. i think the article is a good read regardless.

 

madfast, its just that this thread is going to be full of "I THINK"s instead of Fact...

its all going to speculation and in the end, it just doesnt mean much unless you can prove it...

 

Exactly.

One article about a completely different motor does not make an "end all thread." As evo soul said, you've just started another thread for arguing and wild-*** guesses.

 

lol OK BlackSheep thanks for the introduction.

LOL INJEN CAI Rule

 

and so it begins

 

you mean THIS thread?

 

Not really. The theory parts hold up, but all the parts about what brands make what mean nothing.

RRM makes the only intake option. Even the eBay intakes are just a RRM-clones. There's no CAI available. Etc.

 

the 06 RA CAI firts part of the intake fits on to the TB end! just saw a guy with it, the flowmeter fits like a glove in the opening even the screws match!

 

I beg to differ, although there is no CAI available it would likely come from one of the companies listed so there's your theory and your manufacturers(when they decide it's worth designing one) be patient, it may take awhile. it did on the RA

I wonder if that's flattery or a pita I would think flattery at first and then you realize they are taking your profits...