What you all need to know about motor oil in our Lancers.... PLEASE READ
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I dont have enough money to do that.... all you have to do is look up Royal purple dyno sheet, and you can find all kinds of tests where RP made more HP... I have seen the dyno graph for the engine at my institute that made 15 more HP. I am done trying to prove to you guys, you dont want to listen at all. Im not going to try and tell someone something when they think they are right ALL THE TIME, and anything else is wrong.
funnily enough Royal Purple is not on the list of approved oils for my GTI, whereas Mobil 1 is
just thought I'd throw that out there.
The GTI comes factory turbocharged and requires 100% Full Synthetic Oil.
And saying as Royal Purple are supposedly the only ones who manufacture true 100% full synthetic oil, it seems a little odd for them not to be at the top of Volkswagens approved oil list........or even on the list at all
just thought I'd throw that out there.
The GTI comes factory turbocharged and requires 100% Full Synthetic Oil.
And saying as Royal Purple are supposedly the only ones who manufacture true 100% full synthetic oil, it seems a little odd for them not to be at the top of Volkswagens approved oil list........or even on the list at all
I dont have enough money to do that.... all you have to do is look up Royal purple dyno sheet, and you can find all kinds of tests where RP made more HP... I have seen the dyno graph for the engine at my institute that made 15 more HP. I am done trying to prove to you guys, you dont want to listen at all. Im not going to try and tell someone something when they think they are right ALL THE TIME, and anything else is wrong.
Also, going to RP's site and pulling up their dyno isn't proof, it's marketing material. You saying that you saw a dyno sheet isn't proof either, it's hearsay. We on the board need to see the third party dynos and material proof in the way of data that what you testifying to. It’s not good enough to take your word for it. (Levar Burton taught us that)
I and most would agree with you on some level that all oils aren't the same, but where your argument fails is when you start to make claims with out verification or backup. Furthermore, we have a right to rip on you and your assertion until you provide verifiable proof. As soon as you pony up some real hard facts and not just some line about how you were whiteness to someone or something you could just be blowing smoke and propagating BS.
I'm going to disagree with you when you say you're not trying to talk down to the general forum population.
The second you come here spouting off pseudo-facts about how you're attending (read, "attending", as opposed to "graduated with honors and now extremely successful") the "best" automotive school in the world, you are trying to create a power differential between yourself and everyone else.
You go to UTI, we don't, and as such we should believe what you have to say because, dammit, someone professed it to be true in the golden halls of academia at UTI. Your claim that UTI is the "best" is unsubstantiated. Furthermore, it cannot be substantiated, as such it is irrelevant. Are you saying UTI is better than, say, the school Ferrari's technical school in Maranello?
The fact remains, and will always be so, that the best schools do not, and will not, advertise themselves as such. Why? Simply because they do not have to. A UCLA, MIT, Harvard, etc, etc graduate does not need to go to an interview and explain to the interviewee that s/he is more qualified because s/he went to an ivy league school and they are the best. Savvy?
Not to mention the fact that you state you got in because you won a competition, rather than being selected from a group of applicants based on merit and academic achievement. This is not something a genuinely great school would do as an admissions method. You think I could enter a contest to get into McGill? Cambridge?
Now, I am not going to pretend that I know exactly what you meant by 'competition', perhaps it was an exam or something, but if it was an essay about why Royal Purple is a superior product, you get my point.
Anyway, i'll leave it there, but suffice to say the point has been made on this.
The second you come here spouting off pseudo-facts about how you're attending (read, "attending", as opposed to "graduated with honors and now extremely successful") the "best" automotive school in the world, you are trying to create a power differential between yourself and everyone else.
You go to UTI, we don't, and as such we should believe what you have to say because, dammit, someone professed it to be true in the golden halls of academia at UTI. Your claim that UTI is the "best" is unsubstantiated. Furthermore, it cannot be substantiated, as such it is irrelevant. Are you saying UTI is better than, say, the school Ferrari's technical school in Maranello?
The fact remains, and will always be so, that the best schools do not, and will not, advertise themselves as such. Why? Simply because they do not have to. A UCLA, MIT, Harvard, etc, etc graduate does not need to go to an interview and explain to the interviewee that s/he is more qualified because s/he went to an ivy league school and they are the best. Savvy?
Not to mention the fact that you state you got in because you won a competition, rather than being selected from a group of applicants based on merit and academic achievement. This is not something a genuinely great school would do as an admissions method. You think I could enter a contest to get into McGill? Cambridge?
Now, I am not going to pretend that I know exactly what you meant by 'competition', perhaps it was an exam or something, but if it was an essay about why Royal Purple is a superior product, you get my point.
Anyway, i'll leave it there, but suffice to say the point has been made on this.
OK buddy, more things need to be straightened out. I didnt come on here thinking you are all morons that didnt do your research... Do you not listen to what I have said? I have used Mobil One ever since I could drive, and love it. You all tell me to (think outside the box)... What you are doing as is everyone else, including myself... We look at a bottle of Astrol, and see it says "100% synthetic". We take it as that. Isnt that why you bought Mobil one?
Another thing... why don't you tell me a better shcool than UTI.... Do it.... Ide love to know.... the fact is, I won a competition and EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL in the US I could attend for absolutely ZERO cost, UTI is the only school I had to pay something for.
Again, you make the asumption that Comp Cams has a bad design... I used them becasue they make the best cams available... you can take ANY flat tappet cam there ever was, run anything besides an oil such as RP, Joe Gibbs, or any other oil WITHOUT other additives, YOU WILL RUIN THE CAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! That, my friend, is the truth. The flat tappet cam is the same now as it was in the early years of the V8. And I am going to listen to someone who builds motors every single day, rather than someone who adds some bolt ons and calls himself an engine builder... He doesnt ONLY build race motors, but thats where everyone keeps going with this.
I don't claim to know it all... only what I know... I KNOW for a fact that you know more than I do about the car I'm driving right now. Taht doesnt bother me. But then when ONE person tries to be different and question if the money they have been spending is really worth it, he gets shot down... well excuse me for trying to be different... thinking different leads to ground breaking inventions. I love how every single one of you on here keep going, YEAH, RP is crap, it sucks, it blows motors, it is a waste of time and money, race teams dont use it, there website is crap...... WHEN NOT ONE OF YOU HAVE USED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That, to me, is funny. Yeah, I know a guy, who has a friend who used RP, and his car blew up..... I'm sorry but that doesnt cut it with me.
HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO!!! I will change my oil this weekend with RP and report back here.... If you have listened to anythign I have said, I am till NOT a believer in RP, I love my Mibil One, but, I am going to give it a try, and if I blow my motor, well, you guys were right and i was wrong... If I feel more power, smoother, whatever, YOU guys were wrong. Thats it, Thats all it is. And If I have any complaints with it, anything at all, I will report it back here.... EVOLUTINM.NET IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO HELP!!! That is what I thought I was doing. But all you guys are afraid of change, dont want to try something different. I will try it.
Another thing... why don't you tell me a better shcool than UTI.... Do it.... Ide love to know.... the fact is, I won a competition and EVERY SINGLE SCHOOL in the US I could attend for absolutely ZERO cost, UTI is the only school I had to pay something for.
Again, you make the asumption that Comp Cams has a bad design... I used them becasue they make the best cams available... you can take ANY flat tappet cam there ever was, run anything besides an oil such as RP, Joe Gibbs, or any other oil WITHOUT other additives, YOU WILL RUIN THE CAM!!!!!!!!!!!!! That, my friend, is the truth. The flat tappet cam is the same now as it was in the early years of the V8. And I am going to listen to someone who builds motors every single day, rather than someone who adds some bolt ons and calls himself an engine builder... He doesnt ONLY build race motors, but thats where everyone keeps going with this.
I don't claim to know it all... only what I know... I KNOW for a fact that you know more than I do about the car I'm driving right now. Taht doesnt bother me. But then when ONE person tries to be different and question if the money they have been spending is really worth it, he gets shot down... well excuse me for trying to be different... thinking different leads to ground breaking inventions. I love how every single one of you on here keep going, YEAH, RP is crap, it sucks, it blows motors, it is a waste of time and money, race teams dont use it, there website is crap...... WHEN NOT ONE OF YOU HAVE USED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That, to me, is funny. Yeah, I know a guy, who has a friend who used RP, and his car blew up..... I'm sorry but that doesnt cut it with me.
HERE IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO!!! I will change my oil this weekend with RP and report back here.... If you have listened to anythign I have said, I am till NOT a believer in RP, I love my Mibil One, but, I am going to give it a try, and if I blow my motor, well, you guys were right and i was wrong... If I feel more power, smoother, whatever, YOU guys were wrong. Thats it, Thats all it is. And If I have any complaints with it, anything at all, I will report it back here.... EVOLUTINM.NET IS SUPPOSED TO BE HERE TO HELP!!! That is what I thought I was doing. But all you guys are afraid of change, dont want to try something different. I will try it.
Do you honestly think the best car companies in the world hire from UTI? Do you really? Do you see UTI graduates servicing F1 cars? Ferraris? No, those guys are a cut above and if you actually took the time to read the thread in OT, you would find there are quite a few people who think the school is a joke and a sham. Just because you have to pay doesn't make it the best.
Again, if a part is so sensitive that it can't handle different oil (which shouldn't make a dramatic difference anyways), it's a bad part. How well do you think that part would perform in an F1 car or a WRC car?
No one is trying to say not to do things differently, we're simply annoyed that someone would essentially walk in and tell us that we're all wrong when they have nothing to back it up with. I'm sorry but that's the way I see it. Arguing that because none of us have used it, we don't know what we're talking about is logically flawed. You might as well say that since I've never done crack I don't know it's bad for me. You are welcome to search on NASIOC or even on here for all the people that have had issues with RP. Moreover, as someone else said, there is a reason why RP isn't used by real racers.
Here's the major problem with your "experiment", just because your motor doesn't blow doesn't mean that A. RP is good or B. that all the claims that RP makes are true. There is also the problem of bias, you will be looking for differences and even if there are none, your mind will perceive there to be some. It's no different than the guy who throws a muffler on his car and claims he noticed a power increase, people feel what they want to feel. Yes Evom is here to help but you can't get all bent out of shape when people disagree with you and are willing to challenge you. That's a part of life and something you will one day have to accept.
I find it hilarious that you have used articles by Amsoil to somehow promote RP.
I never once said that RP website is awesome..... I couldnt care less about there website. Here is still what I fail to understand... Do you have PROFF, hard evidence that shows race teams use the same oil that we do?? You don't and you wont be able to find it. We don't know if they are using a special oil made just for them, or if it is, in fact the same oils we use... I am not saying it isnt, because I have used Mobil One for years with excellent results. But... Nobody gives RP a chance... Like I said just a minute ago, everyone goes, "Its crap, cant get the job done, blows motors, isnt in racing.... BS.
Take a look at this... 2001 IHRA Top Fuel Champion, Record Holder For Most Consecutive Wins (6), IHRA Top Fuel ET Speed Record holder 4.631 @ 320.13, Set Career Best ET 4.555 @ 321.88, and was the 2000 IHRA Rookie of the Year 2nd in IHRA Top Fuel Points........ Guess what, RP.
And what do you know, Royal Purple has been involved with teams in the following championships since its introduction to the UK.
British F3 Championship (8 out of 10 teams now use Royal Purple)
British GT Championship
British Superbike Championship
FIA World Sportscar Championship
Ferrari Marinello Championship
World Powerboat Championship
British Rally Championship.
HMMMMM..... looks like a lot to me?
Also, the Le Mans 24hr, RP was the leading supplier DUE to its high film strengths and durability.
Royal Purple is also fully endorsed & recommended by former Ferrari Marinello champions Damax Racing, who use it in all their race & road going cars.
Ford Motor Company was experiencing problems with their Ford Puma rally engines, which was being caused by poor lubricant life. They changed to Royal Purple, and instead of changing the oil frequently through the rally, they were able to run for several rallies on the same sump full of Royal Purple oil.
2004 Royal Purple was in a winning car from all categories of Formula 3.
Out of 7 A class teams Royal Purple are currently involved with 5.
Out of 11 B class team's royal Purple are currently involved with 6 & will be involved with the complete grid within the next month.
Royal Purple are also involved with 4 GT teams
Embassey Racing
Damax Racing
2 privately entered BMW's
Royal Purple is also involved with 75% of the Brit Car grid, which includes the BMW M3 powered Mini of Beechdean Dairies.
Well would you look at that.... I found all this in various places, to find all the british teams that use RP, and by the looks of it, quite a few do.
Take a look at this... 2001 IHRA Top Fuel Champion, Record Holder For Most Consecutive Wins (6), IHRA Top Fuel ET Speed Record holder 4.631 @ 320.13, Set Career Best ET 4.555 @ 321.88, and was the 2000 IHRA Rookie of the Year 2nd in IHRA Top Fuel Points........ Guess what, RP.
And what do you know, Royal Purple has been involved with teams in the following championships since its introduction to the UK.
British F3 Championship (8 out of 10 teams now use Royal Purple)
British GT Championship
British Superbike Championship
FIA World Sportscar Championship
Ferrari Marinello Championship
World Powerboat Championship
British Rally Championship.
HMMMMM..... looks like a lot to me?
Also, the Le Mans 24hr, RP was the leading supplier DUE to its high film strengths and durability.
Royal Purple is also fully endorsed & recommended by former Ferrari Marinello champions Damax Racing, who use it in all their race & road going cars.
Ford Motor Company was experiencing problems with their Ford Puma rally engines, which was being caused by poor lubricant life. They changed to Royal Purple, and instead of changing the oil frequently through the rally, they were able to run for several rallies on the same sump full of Royal Purple oil.
2004 Royal Purple was in a winning car from all categories of Formula 3.
Out of 7 A class teams Royal Purple are currently involved with 5.
Out of 11 B class team's royal Purple are currently involved with 6 & will be involved with the complete grid within the next month.
Royal Purple are also involved with 4 GT teams
Embassey Racing
Damax Racing
2 privately entered BMW's
Royal Purple is also involved with 75% of the Brit Car grid, which includes the BMW M3 powered Mini of Beechdean Dairies.
Well would you look at that.... I found all this in various places, to find all the british teams that use RP, and by the looks of it, quite a few do.
I dont have enough money to do that.... all you have to do is look up Royal purple dyno sheet, and you can find all kinds of tests where RP made more HP... I have seen the dyno graph for the engine at my institute that made 15 more HP. I am done trying to prove to you guys, you dont want to listen at all. Im not going to try and tell someone something when they think they are right ALL THE TIME, and anything else is wrong.
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Lol there is no real Horsepower. Try taking a Evo with over 300 something horsepower try and pull a wagon full of stuff. Yes you must be thinking it can, but it can't. Now a big truck with a turbo could do it. Why? cause it uses royal purple.....
NOT.
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I'm going to disagree with you when you say you're not trying to talk down to the general forum population.
The second you come here spouting off pseudo-facts about how you're attending (read, "attending", as opposed to "graduated with honors and now extremely successful") the "best" automotive school in the world, you are trying to create a power differential between yourself and everyone else.
You go to UTI, we don't, and as such we should believe what you have to say because, dammit, someone professed it to be true in the golden halls of academia at UTI. Your claim that UTI is the "best" is unsubstantiated. Furthermore, it cannot be substantiated, as such it is irrelevant. Are you saying UTI is better than, say, the school Ferrari's technical school in Maranello?
The fact remains, and will always be so, that the best schools do not, and will not, advertise themselves as such. Why? Simply because they do not have to. A UCLA, MIT, Harvard, etc, etc graduate does not need to go to an interview and explain to the interviewee that s/he is more qualified because s/he went to an ivy league school and they are the best. Savvy?
Not to mention the fact that you state you got in because you won a competition, rather than being selected from a group of applicants based on merit and academic achievement. This is not something a genuinely great school would do as an admissions method. You think I could enter a contest to get into McGill? Cambridge?
Now, I am not going to pretend that I know exactly what you meant by 'competition', perhaps it was an exam or something, but if it was an essay about why Royal Purple is a superior product, you get my point.
Anyway, i'll leave it there, but suffice to say the point has been made on this.
The second you come here spouting off pseudo-facts about how you're attending (read, "attending", as opposed to "graduated with honors and now extremely successful") the "best" automotive school in the world, you are trying to create a power differential between yourself and everyone else.
You go to UTI, we don't, and as such we should believe what you have to say because, dammit, someone professed it to be true in the golden halls of academia at UTI. Your claim that UTI is the "best" is unsubstantiated. Furthermore, it cannot be substantiated, as such it is irrelevant. Are you saying UTI is better than, say, the school Ferrari's technical school in Maranello?
The fact remains, and will always be so, that the best schools do not, and will not, advertise themselves as such. Why? Simply because they do not have to. A UCLA, MIT, Harvard, etc, etc graduate does not need to go to an interview and explain to the interviewee that s/he is more qualified because s/he went to an ivy league school and they are the best. Savvy?
Not to mention the fact that you state you got in because you won a competition, rather than being selected from a group of applicants based on merit and academic achievement. This is not something a genuinely great school would do as an admissions method. You think I could enter a contest to get into McGill? Cambridge?
Now, I am not going to pretend that I know exactly what you meant by 'competition', perhaps it was an exam or something, but if it was an essay about why Royal Purple is a superior product, you get my point.
Anyway, i'll leave it there, but suffice to say the point has been made on this.
Actually, I WAS picked from a very small group, before any competition. The competition was all had on, against the 49 other states. Ford Motor Company spends MILLIONS of dollars on this competition EVERY YEAR. Also, With UTI, It has a higher placement pertantage than Harvard, MIT, etc. etc. The biggest and best Manufacturers come to the students, you dont ever go into an interview. There are things about UTI that no one will understand but those that have already gone to it. I GRADUATED both Auto classes in high school, with a 100%, and I have documents on this. Im not some little college student thats learning from square one. But, I do understand that I need more hard facts to convince you guys, and truthfully, myself. I am going to give Royal Purple a try, and just see what comes out of it. I will still search for the ruling about oils, I will search hard and long for that ingo, on EPA.gov, where there is no BS at all. I realize that no ones word is good anymore, so I agree that I need more facts. I will do my best to find them, then report back here.
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Wait, wait, wait, you're going to argue that we have no idea whether the oil we can buy on the shelf is the same as the oil used in race cars yet you then list cars that supposedly use RP in them. Anybody else notice the hypocrisy of that? How do we know those cars are running RP? How do we know they're using the same oil RP sells to us?
I guarantee when you try Royal Purple it's better. In fact i bet one billion dollars it is better.
In fact, i would bet that if you where convinced maple syrup was the best, and ran it in your engine....it also would be better than mobil 1
In fact, i would bet that if you where convinced maple syrup was the best, and ran it in your engine....it also would be better than mobil 1
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Actually, I WAS picked from a very small group, before any competition. The competition was all had on, against the 49 other states. Ford Motor Company spends MILLIONS of dollars on this competition EVERY YEAR. Also, With UTI, It has a higher placement pertantage than Harvard, MIT, etc. etc. The biggest and best Manufacturers come to the students, you dont ever go into an interview. There are things about UTI that no one will understand but those that have already gone to it. I GRADUATED both Auto classes in high school, with a 100%, and I have documents on this. Im not some little college student thats learning from square one. But, I do understand that I need more hard facts to convince you guys, and truthfully, myself. I am going to give Royal Purple a try, and just see what comes out of it. I will still search for the ruling about oils, I will search hard and long for that ingo, on EPA.gov, where there is no BS at all. I realize that no ones word is good anymore, so I agree that I need more facts. I will do my best to find them, then report back here.
UTI is a specialty school that also forms partnerships with various manufacturers, thus it has a higher placement level than a major institution like Harvard that has fields all over the spectrum. UTI is not better than Harvard, sorry. You don't see Nobel laureates coming out of UTI.
You passed high school, so did most of the people here. I think I got 95%+ in CALM (Careers And Life Management) but I'm neither a banker nor a therapist.
It's rather damning that Royal Purple is not certified for use by basically every car manufacturer out there. If it's such a great oil, why can't it pass certification?
It is the same stuff, I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy of your argument. I can assure you that a lot of race teams use off the shelf oils because they're easy to get and perfectly fine for racing use. Again, a manufacturer is not going to waste money making one off custom fluids if they're not going to gain their investment back.
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Let me guess, you were on a high school team which became the state team and you went to an automotive competition? Please do not make it sound more impressive than it actually is. I'm not trying to belittle you, I'm just giving you a reality check.
UTI is a specialty school that also forms partnerships with various manufacturers, thus it has a higher placement level than a major institution like Harvard that has fields all over the spectrum. UTI is not better than Harvard, sorry. You don't see Nobel laureates coming out of UTI.
You passed high school, so did most of the people here. I think I got 95%+ in CALM (Careers And Life Management) but I'm neither a banker nor a therapist.
It's rather damning that Royal Purple is not certified for use by basically every car manufacturer out there. If it's such a great oil, why can't it pass certification?
UTI is a specialty school that also forms partnerships with various manufacturers, thus it has a higher placement level than a major institution like Harvard that has fields all over the spectrum. UTI is not better than Harvard, sorry. You don't see Nobel laureates coming out of UTI.
You passed high school, so did most of the people here. I think I got 95%+ in CALM (Careers And Life Management) but I'm neither a banker nor a therapist.
It's rather damning that Royal Purple is not certified for use by basically every car manufacturer out there. If it's such a great oil, why can't it pass certification?
Um, no, actually, I wasnt part of any state "team". It was a team of 2, and EACH one of us won over 110,000 dollars in scholarships.... Well please tell me if I'm wrong, but 110,000 dollars isnt any "little high school team" We had to fix a Ford Focus with about 21 bugs in it in under 90 minutes. We were going against 49 other states. Ford does actually spent millions upon millions for this comp every single year.
OK. We are so far OFF subject it isnt funny any more. When I posted this thread, Royal Purple was to stay out of it. This wasnt supposed to be a debate over RP is the best. I wrote to inform that oils of today are nothing like they used to be. RP was in here becase they kept what the others threw out. I couldnt care less about RP anymore.
Another thing. UTI isnt a racing institute, so of course we arent going to go to F1. Ferraris.... oh please.... Ive been to the largest Ferrari Dealership in the world, there were over half a dozen ferraris in there with the car in half getting rebuilt. You have to be on a list to even BUY a ferrari, let alone work in one of there shops. UTI is an AUTOMOBILE institute. The reason manufaturers go to UTI is because the training is the best. I am going to the school. You get out of it what you want... this OT thread... he is the one that was sleeping during class, that is why it is a joke to them. Harvard is not better, they dont teach automotive.
Um, no, actually, I wasnt part of any state "team". It was a team of 2, and EACH one of us won over 110,000 dollars in scholarships.... Well please tell me if I'm wrong, but 110,000 dollars isnt any "little high school team" We had to fix a Ford Focus with about 21 bugs in it in under 90 minutes. We were going against 49 other states. Ford does actually spent millions upon millions for this comp every single year.
OK. We are so far OFF subject it isnt funny any more. When I posted this thread, Royal Purple was to stay out of it. This wasnt supposed to be a debate over RP is the best. I wrote to inform that oils of today are nothing like they used to be. RP was in here becase they kept what the others threw out. I couldnt care less about RP anymore.
Another thing. UTI isnt a racing institute, so of course we arent going to go to F1. Ferraris.... oh please.... Ive been to the largest Ferrari Dealership in the world, there were over half a dozen ferraris in there with the car in half getting rebuilt. You have to be on a list to even BUY a ferrari, let alone work in one of there shops. UTI is an AUTOMOBILE institute. The reason manufaturers go to UTI is because the training is the best. I am going to the school. You get out of it what you want... this OT thread... he is the one that was sleeping during class, that is why it is a joke to them. Harvard is not better, they dont teach automotive.
OK. We are so far OFF subject it isnt funny any more. When I posted this thread, Royal Purple was to stay out of it. This wasnt supposed to be a debate over RP is the best. I wrote to inform that oils of today are nothing like they used to be. RP was in here becase they kept what the others threw out. I couldnt care less about RP anymore.
Another thing. UTI isnt a racing institute, so of course we arent going to go to F1. Ferraris.... oh please.... Ive been to the largest Ferrari Dealership in the world, there were over half a dozen ferraris in there with the car in half getting rebuilt. You have to be on a list to even BUY a ferrari, let alone work in one of there shops. UTI is an AUTOMOBILE institute. The reason manufaturers go to UTI is because the training is the best. I am going to the school. You get out of it what you want... this OT thread... he is the one that was sleeping during class, that is why it is a joke to them. Harvard is not better, they dont teach automotive.
Read the thread in OT, there is someone who had a 3.9 GPA from UTI who can't find a job. There is also a person complaining about how inept they are. You're seriously naive if you think UTI is the best. Harvard is a completely different class of school, you might as well try to compare Jeff Gordon to Einstein. Moreover, if the school was the best, the best places in the world would hire the graduates preferentially. That is not the case.