What you all need to know about motor oil in our Lancers.... PLEASE READ
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1. Conventional oils can have additives as well and some cars simply run better with conventional oil. The problem is the seals, since the molecules of conventional oil are larger (which makes them break down easier, lowers their lubrication ability, etc), they cause the seals to swell more so than synthetic. This means if you start running synthetic, you can have blowby because the seal shrinks.
2. Just because they get the additives from the same company (if they even do) doesn't mean they are same. You are again making a false step in logic. The composition could be different as could be the very nature of the additives used.
3. Based on your gas comment, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Go put some crappy gas from a no name pump in your car and datalog it. Next run gas from Shell, Chevron, etc. and log the car. You will notice the logs are fundamentally different and the gases are fundamentally different. There is a reason why Shell is considered a top tier company while your local mom and pop store is not.
2. Just because they get the additives from the same company (if they even do) doesn't mean they are same. You are again making a false step in logic. The composition could be different as could be the very nature of the additives used.
3. Based on your gas comment, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. Go put some crappy gas from a no name pump in your car and datalog it. Next run gas from Shell, Chevron, etc. and log the car. You will notice the logs are fundamentally different and the gases are fundamentally different. There is a reason why Shell is considered a top tier company while your local mom and pop store is not.
Actually, synthetics contain poltymers that when heated, swell just like a conventional oil. And I actually do know what the hell im talking about.... I never said a no-name gas company, if you do that you are stupid, I jsut said that they may refine gas differently, or you can get bad gas from ANY gas company.
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Yeah but nothing you can feel.... You can run your cor one week with Exxon, nesxt week on Mobil, and next week on BP.... You are not going to be able to tell a difference, the big gas companies have gasoline at sucha high standard you wont be able to tell.
OK.... YOU CAN THINK WHATEVER YOU WANT. What are you even talking about????????? IT HAS BEEN TESTED OVER AND OVER againthat RP DOES increase HP. I don't know my instructors first name, we call him Mr. Torres...... HE BUILDS RACE ENGINES!!! AND ABSOLUTELY NOT do i think that a big company gives a damn about my car... Royal Purple is not a big company. And no way do i think to trust a manufaturers claims on HP.... I have seen the ads, why do you think i never ran RP before??? But, unless every single dyno out there is wrong, RP does perform better than most everything else. AND yes, there are plenty of race and off-road oils that are much better, just like RP.... I never stated this though did I?? I am talking about OFF THE SHELF OILS YOU CAN GO TO PEP BOYS AND BUY!!!!! The oils used by Mobil One and Motul in there race cars are NOTHING like what you buy on the shelf... you think I am young and dumb??? Race teams and cars do not need to worry about emmisions, and Mobil knows that if all the winning cars are running a mobil brand oil, people are going to see that and start using it. Your saying too that comp cams is wrong????? they state that ALL OIL ISNT LIKE IT USED TO BE!!!! This is funny, because you know what/// If you had a flat tappet cam in your car, It would have been damaged before you even got it home after you just bought it off the showroom.... why?? new oils don't perform like they used to.RP is an independent company, and they are basically bringing what MOBIL and Motul use in there race cars, to the general public.
That'd be like charmin telling everyone that their TP cuts your butt hole.
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As was stated by another member, you need to back up what you are saying with proof. If you say you have seen reports or dyno sheets that prove your point you need to show them. Until you do you're going to get ripped on. And more to the point that Amby was making, everyone has seen advertising boasting of huge gains... do you think that a product maker would put down thier own product.
That'd be like charmin telling everyone that their TP cuts your butt hole.
That'd be like charmin telling everyone that their TP cuts your butt hole.
I have posted different articles WITH proof....
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They are an independent company not regulated by the EPA.... It is a racing oil, just as i said before, you can buy other oils that are the same as RP, RP is the one that is most accesible. Some only top racers can get a hold of.
Actually, synthetics contain poltymers that when heated, swell just like a conventional oil. And I actually do know what the hell im talking about.... I never said a no-name gas company, if you do that you are stupid, I jsut said that they may refine gas differently, or you can get bad gas from ANY gas company.
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I've actually used RP before and I didn't notice anything on the bottle that said "For off road use only". Wouldn't the EPA require them to print some kind of disclaimer on the bottle? If the EPA regulates what can and can't be used in motor oil I find it hard to believe that they would allow that to happen. What's keeping Mobil or Pennzoil from doing the same thing? Last time I checked, they are also independant companies. It sounds like you talked yourself into believing their little gimmick and without true independant tests I refuse to believe their claims. Who's to say that Royal Purple doesn't have Comp Cams in their back pocket? I remember reading somewhere that Mobil1 changed their formula but nothing that suggested it wasn't full "synthetic". It's also my understanding that synthetic oils' main benefit is the longer carbon chains to help it bond to moving parts and resist breakdown. Thoughts?
Edit: I am actually running RP in my trans right now with no issues for roughly 20K miles. It's not that I'm not down for trying new products, I just find your statement hard to believe without REAL proof.
Edit: I am actually running RP in my trans right now with no issues for roughly 20K miles. It's not that I'm not down for trying new products, I just find your statement hard to believe without REAL proof.
