Okay, guys, I have some thoughts for y'all. Is it possible? Oh, defenitely. Will it take custom work? Oh hell yes. The engine mounts for the 64/69 may be the same, and that'd mean you could just get RA engine mounts. As far as the transmission goes, I'd worry more about placement than cost. If lined up correctly with the engine, will the shifter pop up where it's supposed to, or will it come out somewhere farther back int he console? Don't forget, Eclipses are longer than Lancers too. In addition to custom axles, you'll need all of the engine's accessories, probably, unless the coil pack, starter, et al are all the same.

I applaud you guys for working on this, and don't doubt that it can be done, but it's gonna take some doing...

 

Just do a ralliart swap.

I wouldn't really worry about axles as you can have them custom made or the boots swapped for like 150-200 bucks. The tranny mounts and motor mounts aren't you worry either as a good fabricator/some workmanship can get that done easy. Your other posts mentioned the shifter... that's where i see issues but if you just use the raliart motor it won't be... trust me on that. Use the wiring harnes and computer from the raliart as well... it's simple enough... maybe 6-7 hours worth of work. That would be the simplist way to get the power you're wanting into the lancer. I've actually fully investigated this and even looked into parts. I've found a few recked raliarts already in the junkyards with engines intact. They wanted 750 for the motor and the harness/ecu was 450. That motors internals are awsome for boosting... they have ceramic coated pistons in there and nice rods. You can easily put 15psi on them and be good to go.

Not to knock your desires for the G64 swap but rather to assist you in an easier swap with less to worry about. After it's all said and done the only real custom work should be the exhaust... no big deal. Best of all the motor is newer and by law as long as you put the cat in your setup would be legal. Check it out. Putting an older motor into a newer vehicle is illegal in CA. unless strickly a race car or offroad(non-smoging) vehicle.

 

damn boe...id jump all over those motors....damn..i wish i had money to do the g69 swap....

question for boe: would i be able to keep the moda that i have now?...as in intake/header/exhaust?

 

Header no, intake no, exhaust maybe... you'd have to have a shop do some fitment work. The flange on the axle back section is different and some lengths are different. The ralliart doesn't have a cat in the header anyway... you'll have to do a custom downpipe and exhaust anyway so i'd not worry about those parts just sell them.

 

The G69 is still rare for us. Otherwise, miragers would have taken that step. We just have guesswork on grafting the motor into mirage.

 

Mitsubishi uses cable driven shifters so it will be in the exact same place as stock.

 

It will be tough to find a 4G69 for cheap around these parts, or at least as cheap as a 4G64... one guy was selling me his complete 4G64 engine for 350 bucks, minus one motor mount witk 18K on it.

Turbochargind the 4G69 is feasible too but with that high compression ratio, you would have to probably get a decompression head gasket or lower compression pistons.

 

You are right about teh cost of the motors. The G64 will be easier and cheaper, and you will also see a raise in the price of the G69 IF these swaps work like honda boy swaps do. BUT, you say the compression ration is too high for boost on the G69, you are mistaken. The motor runs a 9.5 compression piston just like all the other 4G motors that come NA, and the G69 has thermal coating on the pistons. Basically it has shown more durable to higher boost levels than the 4G93 or 4G64. BUT the 4G64 is safe for 10 psi pretty much all day with proper fuel management. AND the 4G64 is EASY to turbo as it share the EXACT same bolt pattern for exhaust ports as the 4G63 turbo motors from the 1 and 2 gen Eclipses. Someone needs to do this.

 

I'm not sure if this has been metioned because this thread is fairly long and I didn't feel like reading it. But there isn't just 1 4G69, in fact there are WELL over half dozen different castings and different configurations. It is true people use 4g64 blocks to build DSM stroker motors but theres only a few that will work. For more info check out www.teamnabr.com. AWESOME tech website for DSM's and there is some good stuff on 4G64's in there. But beware if you decide to post, ask stupid questions and get a brutally honest answer. Another websites to look for are non-turbo eclipse spyders forums. I know there is one, cant remember the name though. Those come with 4G64's.

 

Nevermind I'm an idiot

 

The G64 have gen 1 and 2 motors.

 

If you are insisting that there is only two versions of the 4G64,
MD133038
MD149793
MD185407
MD185410
MD185459
MD315745
MD315748
MD350919
MD350944
Those are mitsu part numbers to most, if not all, 4G64 blocks.

 

He is not saying that there are two versions of the motor, he is saying that there are two GENERATIONS of the motor.... The first one seen in the 4G64 of the 2G Eclipse Spyders, oriented with the t-belt on the driver's side, and then the second generation in the 3G Eclipses and the 8G?? Galants, with the timing belt on the passenger side.

 

^^^^
AQ is correct.

That's why there is 3 gen motors for the G92 MIVEC.

As for parts #, Mitsu is a tad strange. Between certain years, they tend to change parts #, even it's the same.

 

i am hoping to come into some money soon(around july august cus im saving for some heavy buys)....now either go icd turbo(rrm style) enigne swap...or **** the car and spend it on other things like i dunno....

now if i go g 69 then i will basically have the RA but with a better body style(sorry RA guys i just dont like the back end of your car) but that means i start all over with my mods...my car also cant be down for two weeks cus that would just kill me...

what should i do...so as boe stated my main concern would be the axles....