Witnessed the difference?
ill try ans send it to arith soon...sorry i have 7 gigs of video from mod
sorry guys...but some of you like to talk a lot of ****....
for a person like me....who knows a little...but not enough to put together a kit....i would go the ///RRM way...
they guys setup was ok...but i really don think that it was worth the 1700 that he paid for it....how reliable is it to run an open turbo?...what can go wrong?....i would say that there is a filter there for a reason....
the guy the owns hte kit....is not anymore knowledable than i am when it comes to stuff like this...and it shows when he opens his mouth...he's more of a "i have it so im better than you kinda thing"...
now heres the breakdown....oh and if you wanna bash RRM go elsewhere please for the love of god...they are the leasing supporters of this community...some of you guys dont believe in them....so go to hell...you wanna do things your own way...fine...go start your own thread and be done with it...rrm never proclaims they are the cheapest, and they do that for a few reasons....cus they stand by their prodcuts 100%...like boes sig says
RRM the best thru and thru...
now onto the turbo kit........
for about 4g's you can get a whole kit from RRM...which had been proven over and over and over again...ya for a turbo kit, its a lot of money...but they have spent redicoulous amount of time and money testing this kit...
to go custom is another route...so lets say do do go that way from a local shop and your the first lancer or maybe even second lancer they work on....
so they charge you 1700 for the kit....but you still have all the R&D to do and all the other uncertanties...remember your still the first....and even if you do know what the hell you are doing then yay...you deserve a damn cookie...but even people that know thier **** still blow stuff up...its been done...and its been seen here on these boards...
rhyzin and i have had a few conversations...of going custom...
http://sclc.net/sclc/forums/viewtopic.php?t=880
thats a link to what things he recomended, and things he would use...
either way to have a pretty bullet proof set up...and from the pricing it would be about the same...you can take some shortcuts here an there or get used parts to save some money...
oh, and i think that RRM made the up and down pipe so that it would be somewhat smog legal, for those people that wanted to stay on the legal side
sorry guys...but some of you like to talk a lot of ****....
for a person like me....who knows a little...but not enough to put together a kit....i would go the ///RRM way...
they guys setup was ok...but i really don think that it was worth the 1700 that he paid for it....how reliable is it to run an open turbo?...what can go wrong?....i would say that there is a filter there for a reason....
the guy the owns hte kit....is not anymore knowledable than i am when it comes to stuff like this...and it shows when he opens his mouth...he's more of a "i have it so im better than you kinda thing"...
now heres the breakdown....oh and if you wanna bash RRM go elsewhere please for the love of god...they are the leasing supporters of this community...some of you guys dont believe in them....so go to hell...you wanna do things your own way...fine...go start your own thread and be done with it...rrm never proclaims they are the cheapest, and they do that for a few reasons....cus they stand by their prodcuts 100%...like boes sig says
RRM the best thru and thru...
now onto the turbo kit........
for about 4g's you can get a whole kit from RRM...which had been proven over and over and over again...ya for a turbo kit, its a lot of money...but they have spent redicoulous amount of time and money testing this kit...
to go custom is another route...so lets say do do go that way from a local shop and your the first lancer or maybe even second lancer they work on....
so they charge you 1700 for the kit....but you still have all the R&D to do and all the other uncertanties...remember your still the first....and even if you do know what the hell you are doing then yay...you deserve a damn cookie...but even people that know thier **** still blow stuff up...its been done...and its been seen here on these boards...
rhyzin and i have had a few conversations...of going custom...
http://sclc.net/sclc/forums/viewtopic.php?t=880
thats a link to what things he recomended, and things he would use...
either way to have a pretty bullet proof set up...and from the pricing it would be about the same...you can take some shortcuts here an there or get used parts to save some money...
oh, and i think that RRM made the up and down pipe so that it would be somewhat smog legal, for those people that wanted to stay on the legal side
Originally Posted by bobaab
some people are a lil too egotistical 
(and by that i mean the motor mouth lancer owner (until he lost), the winner of the race, and friends of the winner) 
(and by that i mean the motor mouth lancer owner (until he lost), the winner of the race, and friends of the winner)
Originally Posted by GreenPsycho
i wanna see that sweet vid
but lets not overgeneralize: if someone knew what they were doing, a custom kit could be cheaper, as/more reliable and as/more powerful than any rrm kit.
just so happens you raced someone that perhaps could have done more research themselves, i dunno
take omarboy for example, mark you wanna challenge him?
but lets not overgeneralize: if someone knew what they were doing, a custom kit could be cheaper, as/more reliable and as/more powerful than any rrm kit.
just so happens you raced someone that perhaps could have done more research themselves, i dunno
take omarboy for example, mark you wanna challenge him?
your right about someone making a custom kit and being as realiable....but how long would it take them to do that, and what broken things will it cost them? in the end...you'll find yourself at the cost of the RRM kit....so why not just get al the bs out of the way and do it right from the beggining?
Originally Posted by airlinevomitbag
You guys are ridiculous. RRM research and development. Any dumbass with money can assemble off the shelf parts into a kit.
Did RRM develop the T-28? No.
Did they develop the wastegate? No. (they set the spring, big deal)
Did they develop the BOV? No.
Did they develop a manifold? No
Did they develop the fuel management? No (they did fool around (researched) the required off the shelf parts)
Did they develop the oil feed and return system? No (its all the same fittings and pieces made for DSM's.)
What they did develop.
Up and downpipes- a shortcut basically, a manifold is a ***** to make.
The piping. (Once again any dumbass with a welder and some mandrel bent pipe can make this)
A zombie nation of uninformed followers and a few paid ones to draw more in- They only thing that took any talent was to take a bunch of technological dummies on evom.net and answer their silly questions with shameless product plugs and create a hero out of one particular owner.
You guys want to whine about the rust on that kit. Well guess what, that **** is made of metal. Metal rusts. Is this a new concept? Probably for some of you. I do not care for the lack of filter. That is scary, so I agree with some of you on that.
I like how no one gives any stats on the custom kit. I bet it is running a t-3 or t3-4 hybrid. Of course a t-28 will pull on it at first. No one mentioned the psi that was being run either. Stage 2 RRM running over 10psi vs 7-8psi on the other is what I am guessing. Most likely another unfair comparison.
This can go on forever. Feel free to flame me. I encourage it.
Did RRM develop the T-28? No.
Did they develop the wastegate? No. (they set the spring, big deal)
Did they develop the BOV? No.
Did they develop a manifold? No
Did they develop the fuel management? No (they did fool around (researched) the required off the shelf parts)
Did they develop the oil feed and return system? No (its all the same fittings and pieces made for DSM's.)
What they did develop.
Up and downpipes- a shortcut basically, a manifold is a ***** to make.
The piping. (Once again any dumbass with a welder and some mandrel bent pipe can make this)
A zombie nation of uninformed followers and a few paid ones to draw more in- They only thing that took any talent was to take a bunch of technological dummies on evom.net and answer their silly questions with shameless product plugs and create a hero out of one particular owner.
You guys want to whine about the rust on that kit. Well guess what, that **** is made of metal. Metal rusts. Is this a new concept? Probably for some of you. I do not care for the lack of filter. That is scary, so I agree with some of you on that.
I like how no one gives any stats on the custom kit. I bet it is running a t-3 or t3-4 hybrid. Of course a t-28 will pull on it at first. No one mentioned the psi that was being run either. Stage 2 RRM running over 10psi vs 7-8psi on the other is what I am guessing. Most likely another unfair comparison.
This can go on forever. Feel free to flame me. I encourage it.
the custom kit is running a t28...the stage 2 is running 9psi while he was running at 7...
Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
OK, normally I wouldn't get involved, but I'm a mod now. So here we go.
I expect to see no more childish arguing following this post, please.
Yes, it is apples to oranges. Yes, Marc's RRM kit was way better than the other guy's custom kit. But that does not by any means make RRM's kits better than every other car out there. As one member pointed out, Omar seems to be doing fine...
And as mentioned, you can't have fair races. You don't line up similarly matched cars. One person says "I can beat anyone here!" Sometimes that person is right, sometimes there's a faster car in the crowd.
So let's be adults about this, please. Thanks.
I expect to see no more childish arguing following this post, please.
Yes, it is apples to oranges. Yes, Marc's RRM kit was way better than the other guy's custom kit. But that does not by any means make RRM's kits better than every other car out there. As one member pointed out, Omar seems to be doing fine...
And as mentioned, you can't have fair races. You don't line up similarly matched cars. One person says "I can beat anyone here!" Sometimes that person is right, sometimes there's a faster car in the crowd.
So let's be adults about this, please. Thanks.
i still dont get why people are saying "apples to oranges"
they are comparing the engineering of the damn kit...and guess who wins? like i said earlier...didnt omar start with the RRM kit and built it up from there? somwhere in there is RRM ....look at his sig, as he hasnt forgetten...
who the hell said you cant have a fair race?...this is geting dumb, and you guys are making excuses for soemthing that you didnt see first hand, just to down the RRM kit?...
Originally Posted by OZLancerlunitic
couldnt disagree more, there are too many what-ifs to make assumptions.
What if he was only running 4-5 psi?
What if the car was untuned?
What if he was running bad gas?
What if each were using different tires/wheels?
Until someone answers this its an apples to oranges comparison.
What if he was only running 4-5 psi?
What if the car was untuned?
What if he was running bad gas?
What if each were using different tires/wheels?
Until someone answers this its an apples to oranges comparison.
he wasnt tuned...and for 1700 the car isnt even done, hence no filter
for the next few questions...why does it even matter?...point is he ran his mouth and got shut down came back and still made excuses...
Originally Posted by lookslikeanevo
he ws runnig 7psi
he wasnt tuned...and for 1700 the car isnt even done, hence no filter
for the next few questions...why does it even matter?...point is he ran his mouth and got shut down came back and still made excuses...
he wasnt tuned...and for 1700 the car isnt even done, hence no filter
for the next few questions...why does it even matter?...point is he ran his mouth and got shut down came back and still made excuses...
thats like saying hobie's kit wont beat an RRM kit....when I bet andrews kit would smoke an RRM kit, even though his im SURE is more $.