that's exactly why i say that..but some people take it too far and just outright make fun of the guy for his efforts. that's just lame.

especially when someone said Mark spent 5k and the custom guy spent 1.7k, and the distance between the two cars was seperated by only 4 car lengths, im not sure I would be boasting about it. I think the custom guy deserves a lot more credit for what he has achieved than a lot of people here give him.

 

AND apparently his car isn't even completed yet.............so lets give this anonymous guy a hand instead of blasting him cause he took a cheaper and almost as effective route

 

^ id give him a hand, unfortunatly and apparently he was talking crap though, and if theres one type of person/people i would wish a nuclear holocaust to rain down upon, it would have to be people who are full of them selves despite their true or false accusations

glad he saved money
glad he has a healthy hobbie
too bad hes a douche

 

LOL, alright, your right about that

 

*sigh*
Well, i didnt see the race, so i wont talk about that. But ... my buddy and I walked up to the car, and my friend asked what a certain part was " i cant remember right now" but it said it on the part. The Guy replied " it's exactly what it says it is". Then we stood there for about 2 minutes just looking and the guy standing there with his hands in his pocket says... " Yea, i put alot of money into this car" thats when i looked at my friend and walked away. Was just uncalled for, the arrogance i mean. But let him be proud of what he has, i mean hell i cant afford RRM or custom, so i probably would be proud too, just not as Verbal. Ignorance is bliss folks remember that. Maybe just maybe now that he got handled, He'll think before speaking next time. We all have to learn our lessons somehow. Some just take longer in the learning process

 

That's the biggest reason of all why he shouldn't have been talking such hype... but, from what i hear, he was a relative newb on things. Thus the shop probably filled him up big and of course his car was a lot faster than stock so he believed. It happens but in the end some 350Z guys talk the same smack and get handled by Marks setup... how do you compare those guys? It's two different cars, weights, hp/tq, etc... in the end though one loses and one wins. That's the facts.

 

I think he's on the right track but needs some better assistance than that shop is giving him. If he just stopped and found a better shop now he'd probably be doing way better. In the end he may have 3k involved but be just as fast or faster than the STAGE 2 RRM kit... who knows? Seriously though i think he needs to go in some different directions after seeing the pics and hearing about the setup.

 

Good Job Mark! Now don't race guys even if they keep saying they are faster than you till you just can't take it anymore and so you gotta Squash them!

I am surprised at some of the wierd comments about us. Some people hate for nothing I guess. No, we didn't invent the Garrett T-28 but we did choose to use the real one made in the U.S.A. so......... Our recipe is a great one. It is cake mix that you can buy in a box and bake a cake like a chef. Bake it in one weekend and you have it. Mark saved up his hard earned money, knows he had some limitations regarding his knowledge and he wanted it done quickly and correctly. Now he is fast and still spent $5K less than Omar did and it took Mark 2 weekends. That is less than the 10 months it took Omar. Anyway, Omar is our Homey. He started with our kit as a foundation but he wanted more than we could do for him since he is 2000 miles away. Don't let guys hate on you Mark. No worries. Are you fastest SCLC guy now? Or is it Manny?

ROAD/RACE

 

Andrews setup, still under construction, should be all that and more since he's going about it into the project with a lot of knowledge and with the right mind set.

Omar's kit is another big dog...

Both of these guys have used things learned from RRM/TSI/custom kits/Factory turbo'd cars/ and various other sources. In the end they'll all remember what contributed to their success and setbacks.

Andrew recognises the RRM's kit setup as being a good setup for the novice or non-turbo schooled person. He's stated this before as have I. It's when people go custom/TSI/etc to save cash thinking they can make up for the lack of knowledge and ability that they get into trouble. In the end a lot of us on here assist with that knowledge but some guys don't take it and go their own path like this one did.

The end result is... well you know what it is from the pics and this post's topic.

 

You guys want a real kick? For his 6" tach (yes... a tach... on an auto...... ) he ran the wiring INTO his engine bay and tapped it from the sensor that measures the RPM. I asked him why he didnt tap it in from behind the ECU which is much easier to do and safer as well.... he claimed that he didnt wanna cut the wiring from behind his ecu just in case he wanted to revert to stock...

Then I asked him what kinda fuel management he's gonna run, he said he's gonna install some sort of standalone. I asked him if he knew that involved almost irreversible wiring and he said he knew. Then I ask what standalone he was gonna run and he said, "oh, u know the one from APC".

 

seriously, if you met the guy...it would be different if you were there

give him props for running an open turbo? NAH

 

just to clear up, i don't think anyone was ******* mark or his setup. hell, you know us lancer guys, we're happy when anyone gets boosted no matter who makes or sells the kit


edit: really, stage2 can eat 350's? i think we need an official stage 1 IC and stage2 kill list. to hell with timeslips and dynos, i wanna know who i can school!

 

 

There ya go.. comparing a 350z to a lancer IS apples and oranges.. or more like the lancer being a little grape, and a 350z being a giant cantelope.. lol. If you beat a v6, or turbo v6 with a turbo lancer, all I have to say is.. DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMM All the way buddy!

 

Yeah, Boe pretty much summed up my feelings on the RRM kit. Unfortunately I'm going to be running TSI manifold for a little while until I hone my welding skills and fab myself a new and better manifold and downpipe (something tubular again, and much sturdier than my original), but my car should be moving again soon...assuming it passes inspection. That's a big assumption at this point considering it's not OBDII compliant.

Anyway, I see this as an apples and oranges comparison because Kareem made a sweeping and ridiculous statement that custom setups were inferior to the RRM setup. However I certainly can't argue that this guy's was better, and I can't argue that mine's better (certainly not right now anyway), but the idea of this one guy representing all custom turbo jobs is ****ing ridiculous. On that basis alone this thread's premise is off base. However, I see nothing wrong with a direct comparison between this guy's kit and RRM's Stage 2 since they both have concrete definitions (even though I'm still not sure exactly what the TSI guy's setup is), and especially since this guy felt compelled to make the comparison himself. This is exactly why I never shot my mouth off when my car wasn't running right. Now if only it were running again...