ha, very true, i think some forget to realize that there are infact better cars out there, but uh, dont you care tell them that here haha

 

love my car.

its fun to drive.

man to the starter of this thread. put on coilovers, a set of strut bars and a rear sway bar.. then lets talk about body roll. god sakes its an economy car, not a porche.

 

This is a car that is a good platform from which to modify. It has style, a good base suspension, and a good engine. The weakest link by far though is the engine. While it only takes a few hundred dollars in style or suspension to make it stand out, it takes far more money to make this thing go faster. Part of the problem is that it is such a good economy car that it does not take well to mods. You throw a exhaust, header, intake on a civic and you get 15-20 hp. On a Lancer you are looking at maybe 7-12 if you are lucky.

I love my car and I'm seriously thinking about going FI in the future. It's the only way to get any kind of response out of this car.

Fox

 

agreed

 

with the proper tuning on a fuel managment unit though the gains are much better with each bolt on... it just takes more effort and patience to make this car faster... nad a hell of a lot of money.

 

Stick it in their face...tell them that the lancer was first...mitsu decided to use the platform to build their rally supercar....so without your lancer...they would have no evo. Also they are TOTALLY different cars and they are stupid to compare the cars....your car isnt in the same class. That's like comparing an RSX to a Ford Powerstroke Diesel.....it makes no sense.

I have people come up to me ALL THE TIME and call my car a lancer. I get pissed cuz they dont realize that it's not a lancer....they are different cars. IMO the Lancer is the econobox to go with if that's the class of car you are lookin for. I like the styling WAY better than corollas, civics, neons, whatever else falls into that category. And if you are in the market for a street legal race car....evo lol

As for the engines being similar.......no

the 4G63 in the evo has been used for....what is it? almost 2 decades now? I mean obviously the one in the evo is different than in old DSMs but these engines are awesome. The 4G94 in the lancer....isn't anything special. Im not saying it's crap...i had a 2003 OZ before the evo and I know what you can do with that engine. With some work you can make good power.

 

Oh yea....about the body roll. Spend the money on some TEINs, strut bars and a rear sway bar you will NOT regret it. The car handles soooo well with a good suspension.

 

Oh yea so similar! I wish I read your post sooner. I wouldn't have wasted so much money on an evo. I would have just bought an ES and modded it a little.

 

im sorry for the inconvenience, i know sometimes it sucks to read garbage like that...

 

Because I am at work and it is slow here I'll throw in my .02. The lancer and the Evo are two completly differnt animals. They look similar but looks are only skin deep. Everything on the inside of the Evo is different from the Lancer. You just can't, and shouldn't compare. Let's not let this discussion regress into a debate about apples and oranges. Just stick to the topic at hand guys.

Fox

 

In all honesty I'm much happier learning how to modify on a simple, low power car. Could I have maybe possibly sold a lot and gotten an evo, yes. Thats just too much car for someone who can't appreciate it though. snobby evo owners gotta realize there is something to be respected in the DIY lancer tuner. speed is always relative, but well-deserved pride is not. even if you end up at 130whp

 

The arguement doesnt apply to 2006 UK Sport Lancers - as we have the fully welded chassis same as the Evo and the 4G63 2.0 DOHC engine - so it actually has an Evo's skeleton and heart.

What annoys me is when people say that the Evo 8 and the 2004/2006 Lancer are too completely different cars... when the fact is, they are not that different at all, and in the UK, you can pay ralliart in derby to put you a turbo on the 4G63, put the widebody on and do the AWD system and you have yourself an Evo 9. It's not worth it might as well buy an Evo but it works out cheaper in some situations.

£8000 for a 2.0 DOHC 4G63 Lancer
£37,000 for an Evolution 9

Ralliart can have it turned into an Evo for about £10,000 ($18,000) which over here is still almost £10,000 cheaper than buying a new Evo 9. If you skip the expensive parts such as Recaros and Brembos, you can have it done for closer to £5,000 and if you want just the turbo setup and AWD and no body panels your looking at £3,000.

So, whilst the 02-03 Lancer never came with the 4G63 engine and thus never had the true heart of the evo, I wish people wouldnt be so quick to push the 04-06 aside... but I cant blame americans because you guys dont have the 4G63 as an option here... I suspect if instead of the 4G94 you guys had the 4G63, the lancer would be viewed as a VERY different car.

In the UK the 4G63 lancer has a brilliant repuation, its known as an excellent base of performance enthusiasts... and what better base is there than an Evo 9's soul?

 

Agreed that it'd be a much better car but still very very different from an evo.

 

Yes different from the factory... but in the UK we have Evo's built from regular lancers. There is one teltale sign that an Evo has been built from a standard Lancer and that is the rear light clusters are retained and thus have that point on the sides. This is because there are flared rear fenders that fit them.

Anyway, what I'm saying, is if the lancer came with the 4G63 in the USA, and used the same evo chassis like the UK sport lancer (which is trying to take customers from subaru WRX hence the chassis usesage and the engine usage) then with an Evo's turbocharger, and some tuning, you'd be a helluva lot closer and more related to an Evo than you guys are with the 4G94 engine.

Its just a shame that Mitsubishi are only just thinking of this now... In the UK the market has finally been filled for a 'cheap evo' with the 4G63 Lancer Sport. This market surely exists in the USA too so I dont know why they dont bring our Sport Lancer over. I bet it would sell better than the Ralliart.

 

The weakest link? That'd be you.

You wanted a performance vehicle, but you bought an economy car. Plain and simple. can say whatever they want about "rally heritage" and "OZ Rally Edition", but the Lancer is simply not set up for performance. The engine is tuned for economy and MPG. The suspension is tuned for comfort and the soccer moms that usually drive them.

So here's the question - what are you going to do about it? You can either make it a performance vehicle (tuning, aftermarket parts) or you can continue to complain about it.

(Sorry, I just get tired of people complaining. Marketing, shmarketing, you knew what you were getting.)