My Lancer truths
Originally Posted by ambystom01
I'm convinced springs blow shocks. Sure some of it is the road and driver, I doubt that people from all across the country drive exactly the same to blow shocks in around the same time span. My brother has gone through two (I believe) sets of shocks on his corolla (sport model) using eibach springs, somehow I don't think the shocks on the lancer are that much better, if at all.
Originally Posted by twisty1251
the blown shocks from springs on a lancer is pretty much an urban myth. None of the spring manufactures make springs that drop more than 1.5in. if you are blowing shocks, maybe you shouldn't go driving through potholes at 60mph. There really aren't any documented cases of blown shocks from springs on lancers. it may be true on other cars, but so far its not on the lancer.
if you aren't going for big power, make it handle good.
if you aren't going for big power, make it handle good.
I dont know where you can't find doccumented cases then you problaby havent looked. I suggest checking all of the coilover threads to start, then move on to search blown struts (mounts)(bearings)
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Originally Posted by Danno
Making your car fast:
If you wan't your car to be worthwile for 1/4 mile racing then do yourself a favour, buy a 1st gen TSI or a 87-91 Civic (DX not Si for weight reasons). Or just buy a muscle car.
Regardless of your Lancer, ES, LS, OZ, Ralliart, Evo my opinion is that making it a 1/4 mile car is a stupid waste of time and you should just buy something better for your application.
If you wan't your car to be worthwile for 1/4 mile racing then do yourself a favour, buy a 1st gen TSI or a 87-91 Civic (DX not Si for weight reasons). Or just buy a muscle car.
Regardless of your Lancer, ES, LS, OZ, Ralliart, Evo my opinion is that making it a 1/4 mile car is a stupid waste of time and you should just buy something better for your application.
Originally Posted by joberk3
now how costly is blowing struts tho? obviously lowering the car an inch or more isnt worth blown struts, but what is the avg price its costing ppl?
Most people buy coilovers or buy used OEM struts. Replacement struts for the OZ were $600 (Canadian) just for the front assembly's. My coilovers were $100 more then that.
ES guys have the option of the Koni replacements that RRM sells.
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Originally Posted by twisty1251
the blown shocks from springs on a lancer is pretty much an urban myth. None of the spring manufactures make springs that drop more than 1.5in. if you are blowing shocks, maybe you shouldn't go driving through potholes at 60mph. There really aren't any documented cases of blown shocks from springs on lancers. it may be true on other cars, but so far its not on the lancer.
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you guys are all f-ing idiots... this whole thread is about 2 or 3 guys on here that no nothing about cars and how they work... first of all... springs do not blow struts.. the driving does.. struts have a 65% compression rate before they feel any stress whatsoever and you need over a 2.5-2.8 drop on a car to constantly compress the OZ strut therefor they should never blow... if you drive like an idiot becuase you have a lowered awesome handling car now than ya, you are overworking them and they will heat up and go on you... it has nothing to do with the lowered car thank you...
and for all of your N/A mods you keep talking about.. i guess this means easy bolt on mods... anyone who knows anything about cars knows that you dont put on a cold air intake and expect big power gains, you put one on your car to make it run better and more efficient and may gain 2-3hp as a bonus... and for you that said you cant use nitrous because your pistons arent strong enough? that is BS, you think your pistons are strong enough to hold a turbos load but they cant hold a couple shots of nitrous? how do you figure.. you dont just drop in a turbo and everything is good... for a proper running turbo setup needs a lot more money than that.. you need stronger pistons and rods you need forged internals so basically a fully rebuilt block... you should use bigger injectors and intake to bring in the air and fuel in the right ratio and a bigger exhaust to send it all out... you need a lot of things to turbo... so like dano said you want a faster car than this stock engine wont do it... maybe an engine swap is better for 500hp..but for people looking for a nicer running engine with a broader power range then bolt ons are good... turbos are not that simple as you say... im soo sick and tired of reading all your post form the same guys over and over again that keep saying the same BS and deleting everyones posts that disagree with them... this post will be deleted probably too because im trying to inform people that are being misguided that you guys dont know everything like you think you do... so i hope some people read it before it is deleted and im banned from the site
thanks for your time
and for all of your N/A mods you keep talking about.. i guess this means easy bolt on mods... anyone who knows anything about cars knows that you dont put on a cold air intake and expect big power gains, you put one on your car to make it run better and more efficient and may gain 2-3hp as a bonus... and for you that said you cant use nitrous because your pistons arent strong enough? that is BS, you think your pistons are strong enough to hold a turbos load but they cant hold a couple shots of nitrous? how do you figure.. you dont just drop in a turbo and everything is good... for a proper running turbo setup needs a lot more money than that.. you need stronger pistons and rods you need forged internals so basically a fully rebuilt block... you should use bigger injectors and intake to bring in the air and fuel in the right ratio and a bigger exhaust to send it all out... you need a lot of things to turbo... so like dano said you want a faster car than this stock engine wont do it... maybe an engine swap is better for 500hp..but for people looking for a nicer running engine with a broader power range then bolt ons are good... turbos are not that simple as you say... im soo sick and tired of reading all your post form the same guys over and over again that keep saying the same BS and deleting everyones posts that disagree with them... this post will be deleted probably too because im trying to inform people that are being misguided that you guys dont know everything like you think you do... so i hope some people read it before it is deleted and im banned from the site
thanks for your time
1. Feel free to buy a lancer and put springs on. You will find the shocks will blow.
2. Almost everyone who has used nitrous has run into problems with the pistons. You can run a small amount, but nothing like what the hondas can run.
2. Almost everyone who has used nitrous has run into problems with the pistons. You can run a small amount, but nothing like what the hondas can run.
kinda a pointless argument. By installing springs which create people to drive more aggresively blows the struts then you might as well say springs blow struts. same dam thing. As for making power, the Lancer makes **** for N/A power. even tuned. The turbo kit offered by RRM is easy in the fact that it is a "bolt-on" kit. They provide everything you need except... gauges, and a tune?!? No crap you have to tune the car to get it to run right with a turbo but you dont have any problem with the install. Plus the lancer can run... what 7 psi? on stock internals. all you need is fuel pump, injectors and of course breather mods (common sense). There are plenty of guys runnin on here w/o built blocks.
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Why would I delete it?
This thread is My Lancer Truths, i.e. the things I believe. Don't like it, post elsewhere. If a forum member wants to believe what I believe, then hey, it's a free country.
PS - I love how you're going to tell me all about Lancers when you have a Mazda. Did you own a Lancer? Have you been around Lancers long enough to notice reoccuring patterns? Or are you walking in here with your "any car" knowledge and expecting me to kiss your @ss?
This thread is My Lancer Truths, i.e. the things I believe. Don't like it, post elsewhere. If a forum member wants to believe what I believe, then hey, it's a free country.
PS - I love how you're going to tell me all about Lancers when you have a Mazda. Did you own a Lancer? Have you been around Lancers long enough to notice reoccuring patterns? Or are you walking in here with your "any car" knowledge and expecting me to kiss your @ss?
Originally Posted by yellowmsp035
you guys are all f-ing idiots... this whole thread is about 2 or 3 guys on here that no nothing about cars and how they work... first of all... springs do not blow struts.. the driving does.. struts have a 65% compression rate before they feel any stress whatsoever and you need over a 2.5-2.8 drop on a car to constantly compress the OZ strut therefor they should never blow... if you drive like an idiot becuase you have a lowered awesome handling car now than ya, you are overworking them and they will heat up and go on you... it has nothing to do with the lowered car thank you...
and for all of your N/A mods you keep talking about.. i guess this means easy bolt on mods... anyone who knows anything about cars knows that you dont put on a cold air intake and expect big power gains, you put one on your car to make it run better and more efficient and may gain 2-3hp as a bonus... and for you that said you cant use nitrous because your pistons arent strong enough? that is BS, you think your pistons are strong enough to hold a turbos load but they cant hold a couple shots of nitrous? how do you figure.. you dont just drop in a turbo and everything is good... for a proper running turbo setup needs a lot more money than that.. you need stronger pistons and rods you need forged internals so basically a fully rebuilt block... you should use bigger injectors and intake to bring in the air and fuel in the right ratio and a bigger exhaust to send it all out... you need a lot of things to turbo... so like dano said you want a faster car than this stock engine wont do it... maybe an engine swap is better for 500hp..but for people looking for a nicer running engine with a broader power range then bolt ons are good... turbos are not that simple as you say... im soo sick and tired of reading all your post form the same guys over and over again that keep saying the same BS and deleting everyones posts that disagree with them... this post will be deleted probably too because im trying to inform people that are being misguided that you guys dont know everything like you think you do... so i hope some people read it before it is deleted and im banned from the site
thanks for your time
and for all of your N/A mods you keep talking about.. i guess this means easy bolt on mods... anyone who knows anything about cars knows that you dont put on a cold air intake and expect big power gains, you put one on your car to make it run better and more efficient and may gain 2-3hp as a bonus... and for you that said you cant use nitrous because your pistons arent strong enough? that is BS, you think your pistons are strong enough to hold a turbos load but they cant hold a couple shots of nitrous? how do you figure.. you dont just drop in a turbo and everything is good... for a proper running turbo setup needs a lot more money than that.. you need stronger pistons and rods you need forged internals so basically a fully rebuilt block... you should use bigger injectors and intake to bring in the air and fuel in the right ratio and a bigger exhaust to send it all out... you need a lot of things to turbo... so like dano said you want a faster car than this stock engine wont do it... maybe an engine swap is better for 500hp..but for people looking for a nicer running engine with a broader power range then bolt ons are good... turbos are not that simple as you say... im soo sick and tired of reading all your post form the same guys over and over again that keep saying the same BS and deleting everyones posts that disagree with them... this post will be deleted probably too because im trying to inform people that are being misguided that you guys dont know everything like you think you do... so i hope some people read it before it is deleted and im banned from the site
thanks for your time