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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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i would love a lip tho..i hit a ****in white rabbit goin 80 up a canyon..cracked my umm,that extra piece that goes on corner of front bumper..whatever, dont feel like buyin another one n a lip would be way sicker..haha it broke my fog light off its hinges too..nutin like some superglue to save the day
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 12:08 PM
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Good quality projectors are expensive. Most of the people who now want them will turn around when they see that they can't afford them. (For example, alot of people said they would buy the turbo kit but where are they now?) So it's a good idea to invest in a product that will sell.
not necessarily true..ive gotten some ebay projectors for my Civic Si and they costed 249 and those things are extremely great quality and look extremely well close to OEM, theres also TSX aftermarket projectors that sell really well and those are under 300 bucks and are known to have really high quality. i just dont understand how a tow hook is more priority than projectors, speaking that most people will never customize the lancer enough to the point to where it needs to be towed.

as for things like a turbo people use common sense they know 5k for a turbo is insane and will wait untill something more reasonably priced comes along

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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 12:45 PM
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why dont u ask them to make em then, n let us know what they say...i think rrm is set on this issue for now man
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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because tow hook is easier to make compared to projectors lol thats the only reason i can think of... and im pretty sure time constraint isnt the problem
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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I agree. Bigger profit on the hook. HIDs at a good price probly wouldn't have the same % of profit. Tow hook may be %50 while hids may be %10. What would you prefer if you ran this?

But on topic, the car is ballin! Like others I'm not feeling the center exhaust, but what about a nice molded lip on the Lancer? That would look nice. Lets get some options on styling out there instead of everyone having the same GT face with a splitter.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:16 AM
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IMO if a tuning company doesn't start making internals than this is all going to go to waste when we can't compete with a built k20

I have a buddy with a rsx-s (headers, chip, intake, exhaust) and got the jump on him but than he pulled in the end. Now he's got a fully built Skunk2 top end and I can't even compete with a car length start, and next week he should be turbo... my point is he has a k20 that I could compete with stock but as soon as he got the build done there was no point in even racing. Even if I were to go turbo with full exhaust, chip, intake, etc. he would still walk me, because he has the internals to push a higher boost.

RRM if you want to make this lancer a competitor than we need internals otherwise Skunk2 k20's will destroy us repeatedly. At least tell us whether you guys even plan on internal work in the future so we can plan for some serious power or look elsewhere. Don't mean to be rude but I believe tuning a car to compete requires more than just airflow mods. We need internals or boosting the car will be pointless when were pushing 8psi and our k20 si rivals will be pushing 15+.

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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To tell you the truth I would also like to see more innovative things. The hum drum of intake+exhaust+header+piggy=best there is, is kinda old. Make this thing rip!
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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I agree, Rock I would love to see some upgraded internals for the lancer. I am not sure how this will work with cvt models since the transmission is so touchy. But I would definitely get in line for some Cams, forged pistons/rods. I'de love to see 200+HP NA 4b11 and I'm sure if anyone can do it you guys can.

I know I made a post on this a while back but what about opening up a higher rev range? With a perfectly square engine it makes tackling this challenge a little easier. I know this requires doing some balancing and structural work.

On the visual end, carbon fiber pillar gauge pod, carbon fiber trim kit for the 2 parts of the dash and the 2 front doors. If not carbon fiber at least something besides that crappy fake carbon fiber. Carbon fiber trunk, Carbon fiber vortex generator, carbon fiber evoX or gts spoiler. I'm sure you still have some things up your sleeve Rob. You guys know how to do it right.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 01:01 AM
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looool i've already said all of this earlier in this thread, and it went by unnoticed..finally some recognition, i guess the nice verbage makes the diff

anyways +1000^

ima go out on a limb tho but does anyone have an idea of the possibility of converting the GTS into AWD? if so i think this would open up numerous doors for the GTS scene and id love to see it. also engine swap compatability? *that is if the engine work doesnt progress*
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:26 AM
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That sounds good to me
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by I Am God
looool i've already said all of this earlier in this thread, and it went by unnoticed..finally some recognition, i guess the nice verbage makes the diff

anyways +1000^

ima go out on a limb tho but does anyone have an idea of the possibility of converting the GTS into AWD? if so i think this would open up numerous doors for the GTS scene and id love to see it. also engine swap compatability? *that is if the engine work doesnt progress*
I've been trying to research this the last couple weeks. I believe the ralliart was designed using the lancer's frame and body. So I am assuming if you ran across a totaled RA... you should be able to install it on your lancer. If anyone is a better mechanic than me (which should be almost all of you) could look under the car and confirm whether or not we have the indentations for the drive train. No doubt in my mind that it will require heavy modification in order to make it work, maybe some slight fabrication too.

I'm thinking it's possible but it would be extremely pricey
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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you guys are forgetting the fact that Evo X internals are interchangeable with the lancer. go out and get some AMS cams and such. they work
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LuDa
you guys are forgetting the fact that Evo X internals are interchangeable with the lancer. go out and get some AMS cams and such. they work
not all engine internals are interchangeable from the evo to lancer, and those cams wouldn't help me in the least since I have an 09 =/ I'm pushing RRM to do this since they made internals for the previous lancer. If they don't make 2.4l internals than the 09's are stuck with stock internals and if I would want serious power, I'd have to down swap to a 2.0l and that's just a waste of money. I want to know if there is any plans at all to do 2.4l internals or I'm going to be forced to trade for a car that has more potential. I figured the lancer is the new "hotness" on the ff car scene and tuning companies would be jumping at the chance to do the internal work, so we can make our cars as fast as they look. I don't know about you guys but I'm planning about $2000 on dress up (if that) and pouring over $8,000 on engine work over the next several years so I can compete with mild STi's and the muscles.

If my buddies k20 can push over 400whp than we should be able to no problem.

Just at least let us know if you guys are planning any internal work at all. Because even if it's not your next project (not expecting you guys to release this sorta stuff for awhile anyways), we'll at least know the option will be there when we are ready for it. Also something needs to be done with the intake manifold... I feel like it belongs on a Tonka truck or power wheel, not my car.

I love and I think they designed the car to be tuned to compete with the Si's and Sentra's directly.

that's just my .02

WARNING
I found a CF kit at AutoCityImports.com can anyone tell me if this is real CF or some damn sticker!?!?
If it is just a p.o.s. sticker... Than you guys should replicate it with real CF
I'd buy it cuz it looks a lot better than accenting your interior with paint
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Also something needs to be done with the intake manifold... I feel like it belongs on a Tonka truck or power wheel, not my car.
Rock already stated that he does not believe they can improve on the intakes design. It may be plastic but that does not mean it does not function well or can be made to flow better.

And whoever said that the AMS Evo cams will work on the Lancer...that concept is just retarded. The Evo has a MUCH different tune than the standard 4B11 and the cam shafts for an EVO will just mess up how a normal lancer runs. Go get a set of AMS evo9 cams and then find yourself a non-turbo 4g63 car and see what happens if you use those cams. It will not run well at all. The engines may be similar but to get the performance desired these internals such as cams are changed dramatically from base to high performance model. Then you get to internals like piston heads and rods. Yes the rods might work but in no way shape or form will the heads work. ALL turbo charged vehicles have a lower native Compression ratio than their NA Counterparts. Which is usually achieved via the shape of the piston head as well as other slight changes to the way the engine runs. Evo compression ratio is most likely 9.5:1 or 9:1 where the NA lancer is 10:1 or 10.5:1. Adding a lower compression piston is also going to ruin how your car runs, unless you turbo it also.

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