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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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If this is all true then that would be insane! I wouldn't want to push my car that hard even if it's fully built just because of reliability. Hey Merc... was this his dd? And was he boosting 26 psi constantly?

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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:45 AM
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amby, I wouldn't believe you I believe that Rob @ RRM knows him though. They posted a thread about it a while ago that everyone knocked. I dont see why no one can believe that a 100+ shot of nitrous can bump a car that already makes 300-350 whp up to 400-450whp. Yea he's kinda hard to understand when he types, but he gets his point accross. He said he was moving to a t3/t4 turbo a little while ago, maybe he just made some mistakes on the listing.
It's the lack of proof that's the problem.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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i wonder if this guy just recently changed to a e manage. rrm claims he was using their piggyback at 1 point.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Well if he made mistakes he sure did on the ebay listing..lol.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:56 AM
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Even after producing the dyno graph. The dyno both he and I ran on reads low, as he ran at another before getting it tuned and put down 460, and days later ran at National Speed (in similar conditions) and put down 440.
I don't know, I could believe it, but I guess that's just my .02, not that anybody asked.

That's all this guy has to do is post some dyno sheets. It's not that hard.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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So he responded... here's my question.

---Original Message---
I have some questions...
How do you know if you're running 430 hp to the wheels?
With an automatic transmission and without a tune it is impossible to push 26 psi even if you're engine is fully built.
Please let me know since what you're saying is very interesting.

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all u have to do is the quater mile time that a round about hp o and this is a new fule system i just put on so right now i dont know what i have i need a nother map. i was running the r4 software the frist time that where i got my quater mile timeand u can look at my bost gauge u will see 22psi and a nother thing to when i hit the 26 it blow up my tranny for the 3 time i have no reason to lie! and i all so have 45 gs in the hole cars to i can show it all to u i took it all out on my taxs. i to the r4 off bec it was a ***** to tone and went to the new 1 this is still a pain in the *** but iam just going to sale it. i have way to much time and money in it ,. and the money is rinning out fast


I still don't believe it. He needs some proof.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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So he has 45000$ in a 10000$ car and he claimed it on his taxes?
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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I guess...
He must have serious income or he's been building this car since 2003.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by lancer2show
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...-1-4-mile.html

i wonder if this guy just recently changed to a e manage. rrm claims he was using their piggyback at 1 point.
Yea emanage ultimate. He was using the piggy that came with the kit for a while.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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lol his grammer and spelling makes it so much harder to believe. Either way impressive numbers.

PS. just to full the fire I could run that quater time for 4.5k in mods.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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lol his grammer and spelling makes it so much harder to believe. Either way impressive numbers.

PS. just to full the fire I could run that quater time for 4.5k in mods.
That's why I always suggest people consider moving to a more capable platform rather than dump thousands into a slower car.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:53 PM
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It isn't our job to disprove his claim, it's his job to prove his. Pictures are meaningless, I can take a picture of my VF-43, claim it's a 20G and then start saying I have over 500 WHP but would you believe me?
I agree, and I probably wouldn't believe you, unless you started throwing up tons of pics of a 100 shot of nitrous with alcohol/methanol injection, engine management, wideband, etc. With a parts list, I'd have a hard time doubting you then.
He's saying he's got nitrous, alcohol, fully built engine and trans with reworked head, ported manifold/TB, and he's pushing 22 PSI. Do you have anything to compare that to? I don't, other than the fact that I put down about 41% of that power with nowhere near the amount of mods he's running, and only running a little over a third of the boost. Not to mention nitrous and alky are huge power adders.

Just saying, some seem to be a little quick to judge. And as you said, it's not our job to disprove, yet everybody seems to be trying to fill that position.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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He doesn't have a parts list though and his pictures mean nothing. I've seen people who have nitrous but are not injecting it into the motor, it can be used to cool the intercooler, as a purge kit or just for looks. I don't doubt he has methanol injection but 400+ WHP on a car that makes about 100 WHP stock (I'm assuming he used a dynojet) requires a lot of proof. That's like an Evo with 1200 HP.
Old Dec 15, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Not quite, if an Evo puts down about 220 at the wheels, then 4 times that is going to be 880. I've seen plenty of 700awhp Evos that I don't doubt or think twice about it.
Is this truck unbelievable to you too? Because I've seen it in person, and what it's capable of. Apparently that means nothing to you though since ThunderOZ knows the guy who owns this car personally, and you still sit here and nitpick everything down to the bone. Once again, I understand that it's not everyday you'd run into something like this, but that doesn't mean it's not possible. You're still sitting here trying to disprove his claims, and even worse, doing it behind his back, so it's not like you're going to get any proof this way...

I highly doubt you'd be this reserved about it if it was owned by AMS and all they did was claim they owned a car that made that much hp without divulging any information about it.

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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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880 WHP is insane. I know there are Evos making that kind of power but if someone said their Honda Accord was making that, would you believe them? What about a Camry V6? The Lancer was never built to be a performance car (unlike the Evo) thus people are skeptical when it makes absurd amounts of power.
I know diesel trucks can make a lot of power so no it's not unbelievable. If somebody told me they had a 400 WHP Protege though, I'd be very hesitant to believe them.



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