The Evo also weighs 3300+ lbs., does it not? Claim nothing. 13.9 1/4 miles are real, but certainly not earth-shattering. With an ECU flash, exhaust, and intake, there have been a few that have done 13.2@100+. No kidding. Not bad for a box, eh?

 

Are you sure? At the drag that I went monthly (Cal. Speedway at Fontana), bunch of R32 running high 14s even 15s. And they didn't do that well at the track either. Stop the magazine numbers talking man. I been there and saw that. I'm actually test drove it before purchasing my MR for daily drive when none of the cars I drove give me that feeling of the evo.

I'm not saying the r32 is bad, I'm just disargreed with the guy's comment about the evo after he purchased the r32.

 

It is "bling". Period. It started out in Euro as a very good performance-oriented car but when it made it to US, some jack-*** turned it into a "bling" car with all the wanna-be-luxury stuffs and heavy-*** wheels with sucked tires. There were actually a few good VWs back then.

 

I'm in So Cal and yes, lot of people like those cars here. In my work place parking garage alone, there're at least 3 r32s and bunch of Audi like S4, A6 and at least one RS4. So if you want to check them out, come on down here to So Cal.

 

R32...i miss my old reflex silver one. made to many noises though, it had a ding for everything. i know i just took my seatbelt off, opened the door, and sneezed...didnt have to ding me a memo about it.

smooth power, refined interior, and nice raspy exhaust.

after owning several subaru variants (wrx, sti, wrx wagon) i was spoiled with real awd and boost. i didnt want to go back to another sti, but the R32 wasnt the car for me. no i have a RS.

i could compare all the cars all day long, but it boils down to personal prefrence and intent for it. im just glad we even get them in the USA, and can ***** about which is better and what not.

 

I know you're not bashing. No big deal.

However, good drivers can and have run 13.9 stock. Track conditions also come into play. Naturally, they'll be slower if it's hot outside. You saw a small number of cars, and there are others out there that have done better.

I never magazine race. These numbers are real. Search on VWvortex... you'll find 'em.

 

Sorry, wrong again. OTOH, if it's your opinion, then it's duly noted. However, you write so matter-of-factly. I hate to argue over something so asinine, but it is not a "bling car," nor is it a race car. It's the same car the Europeans got, minus the suspension, tires, and HID headlights. These are easily replaced. In fact, the Euro version somehow received a smaller diameter throttle body, and somehow the Euro Rs are running slower 1/4 mile times, as if 1/4 mile times really mattered. Just some more info, that's all.

VW's goons thought it would be a good idea to put a higher, softer suspension on the R32 because other people were complaining about busting their oil pans.

The US and Euro wheels are the same. I have replaced all these things... better suspension, wheels, tires, etc. It feels like a different car now -- back to being performance-oriented.

 

I hope you didn't scour the internet just to rebut what I said...or rather rebut the point you thought I was trying to make. I don't doubt at all that VW is having some problems with their initial quality in the market. Hell my own sister sued VW for selling her a lemon law buyback Passat as "certified pre-owned". Massive electrical problems on that car since the day she bought it. Equallly massive amounts of BS from the VW service advisors trying to convince her that 5 batteries in 8k miles was nothing even remotely suggestive of a potentially larger electrical issue. In the end she was reimbursed for every cent and then some. I remember her showing me the check from VW made out to her for $38k.

The point I was trying to make is that people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. It's totally hypocritical for an Evo owner to tell a new R32 owner that he made a huge mistake because VW, as a corporation, is a disaster. Jesus guys...we drive Mitsubishis. Volkswagen NA may not be moving as many cars as they were in the 90's, but they certainly are moving more than Mitsu NA. Remember that fledgling Scion even outsold Mitsubishi in the USDM for 2004. Yet we all bought Evos despite the economic impotency of Mitsubishi. You're outa your tree to even begin to fault an R32 owner for doing the same. Neither Volkswagen or Mitsubishi are exactly sultans of swat in the USDM, but nobody has experienced a more dramatic, more painfull, more documented slide that Mitsubishi North America.

 

Good post!

Forget the niche cars. In this market, the Camry, Accord, {any} SUV, Civic, and Corolla pwn everyone.

 

big mistake; r32 over evo 8...

 

Wow, we have some girls in this thread. The type that cry, yell and complain when a evo is traded in.

Please, for those of you... log of the internet, walk outside (walk the dog, jog, etc.), get a fresh breath of air and relax, the world hasn't come to an end... yet.

EDIT: Check out this video of a turbo r32 on the dyno...

 

^^ I could be wrong but I thought that was a GTi with the R32 motor swap?

 

+1

 

see a lotta ppl are going based on engine and performance ...

if you look at the two cars side by side im gonna guess 8/10 are gonna choose
an evo purely for it's looks ...

 

...and on any other non-Evo-centric message forum, it might be the opposite.

Maybe you mean 8/10 times you might choose the Evo?

Choosing one car over another is no big deal, but please don't start pulling stats out of thin air.

How do you figure? If it's the buyer's choice, and he likes one car over the other, then it is definitely not a mistake. Maybe most everybody else here knows better when it comes to making automotive choices for other people? Hm...