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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nightwalker
The R32 is a nice car. No doubt. But you can't compare it to an EVO. It's apples and oranges. Different target markets.

Audis and VWs are some of the most finnicky freakin cars to work on! More so than beemers. Actually, NEW VWs and Audis is what I meant.

Just an example. There is a service bulletin out to all smog stations about VWs with aftermarket stereos that says "DO NOT SMOG" if vehicle has an aftermarket stereo. Can and has caused smog machine to crashed and terminally shut down. ...or something along those lines. My boss almost killed me for trying to hook up the Snap-On scanner to a girl's Jetta with a Sony deck. Just 1 example, there are more.
This isn't an issue anymore. Older Mk3/Mk4 VWs had a "K-wire," which, if not disconnected during an aftermarket stereo install, would short the +12V line (I think) and fry the scan tool that was connected.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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i was making the point that rarity isnt a quality in a car. it has nothing to do with anything. you can also have a very exclusive piece of crap. not many people **** blood, but hey, thats exclusive.

your post was made to garner appriciation and/or attention. why else would you post it?

furthermore, i appriciate good cars. just not cars that are a day late and a buck short.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by kcross
i was making the point that rarity isnt a quality in a car. it has nothing to do with anything. you can also have a very exclusive piece of crap. not many people **** blood, but hey, thats exclusive.

your post was made to garner appriciation and/or attention. why else would you post it?

furthermore, i appriciate good cars. just not cars that are a day late and a buck short.
Great, that's all I needed to read.

Also -- and you can think what you wish -- my post was NOT made to "garner appreciation and/or attention." This is a discussion forum, is it not? I was adding to the discussion. Whether you believe it was for personal attention is your prerogative and irrelevant.

IIRC, the Evo was about 7 generations too late, huh? I guess it finally made it here, too. Basically the same with the R32 and STi. Compare the R32 to an Audi TT 3.2. Which one is a day late and a buck short? Since the R32 has no direct competition in the market (and was never meant to compete with anything else), then it wasn't really late to anything.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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Wow, can't say I back that swap, but congrats! Enjoy your new ride!
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Steiner
I'm gonna have to laugh a little at those who say VW's reputation is enough reason to avoid the R32 altogether. You idiots all bought Evos from a struggling car company unable to turn a profit in the US going on 5 years. Many complain about tricky sales tactics, Evo markups, and of course constant battles with the Mitsu warranty police. The Evo may have some performance advantages of the R32, but anybody who's taken 8th grade economins can tell you that Volswagen > Mitsubishi
Good point, but IIRC, there was some sort of scandal among the VW suits, and they're hurting financially as well, though maybe not as much as Mitsubishi. VW's problem is that their cycle time between new car models is way too long. Shiat... it's taken them about 2 years to finally get the farkin GTI over here. Granted, they did bring the Jetta, but it was the weak-sauce base model.

Speaking of new cars, has anyone read Autoweek? The new Evo (cover story) looks pretty cool. I wonder how much of the design will actually make production...
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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the audi is a pile of **** also... and yes the evo couldve been out a lot sooner but when it did come out it did so in force.

reguardless my only complaint is i think the r32 was overpriced, though it may not be meant to compete with an evo or sti it still fell in the price bracket. it does have a much better appointed interior which could justify the price to some, but from a performance standpoint anyone has to plainly see it was lackluster.

im not trying to attack you or your car. i think anyone that has a car that takes pride in it and mods tastefully and correctly is deserving of praise, there arent enough people left doing that.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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RFLMAO!!!
oh r32 golf? I thought you meant r32 skyline my bad
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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I once was interested in the VW Golf R32 but after sitting in the car I realized that it was not fore me. I thought the seats were well bolstered but not comfortable. I didn't really like the aluminum trim or the rims. I love the blue exterior paint and the exhaust note (plus twin exhaust pipes). Great car for some, for others the evo is the better choice.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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the audi is a pile of **** also... and yes the evo couldve been out a lot sooner but when it did come out it did so in force.

reguardless my only complaint is i think the r32 was overpriced, though it may not be meant to compete with an evo or sti it still fell in the price bracket. it does have a much better appointed interior which could justify the price to some, but from a performance standpoint anyone has to plainly see it was lackluster.

im not trying to attack you or your car. i think anyone that has a car that takes pride in it and mods tastefully and correctly is deserving of praise, there arent enough people left doing that.
I understand your point of view. However, despite the difference in power output, the R32 performs better than you might think. No, it's not a race-ready car like the Evo, but it's up there. Have you driven one? (Just asking.) If you haven't, then know that the US-spec suspension that we were stuck with is complete garbage. We were blessed with no-name springs and very soft Monroe dampers. With a proper sport suspension (such as the Euro-OE setup), or even coilovers, it handles nicely -- much more so than FWD Golf/Jetta variants. With some money (a lot more than some are willing to spend) you can also upgrade the front diff and the rear Haldex unit, which sends more power to the rear than the stock unit. It can be made into a nifty weekend racer.

I can also understand how one might think it's overpriced. Look at a regular GTI, though. They were $23k. Some folks bought their R32 for $28k. A $5k difference is a bargain for all the extra stuff you get over a standard GTI. Bigger engine, big brakes, AWD, sport seats, trim, steering wheel, exhaust, body kit, etc. For what it is, it's a good car, albeit a good GT car and not a track-bred car.

I *almost* bought an Evo, but I was hooked on the VR6, and I still wanted the hatchback for its utility. Heck, maybe the Evo X will be my next car?

If my previous posts seemed inflammatory, then I apologize. I didn't mean to come across that way. I'm not here to argue... never was.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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hey we all come on the forums for a good laugh, thats what its all about.

i havent driven one myself but been around quite a few, and i have a friend that had a gli and one of my friends still has a gti.

the diff upgrade is one of the best mods you can do. as it stands your losing massive amounts of power throught the stock unit before the diff ecu upgrade. and for suspension id reccomend the h&r, its pretty standard but they have consistant performance on all their applications.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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hey we all come on the forums for a good laugh, thats what its all about.

i havent driven one myself but been around quite a few, and i have a friend that had a gli and one of my friends still has a gti.

the diff upgrade is one of the best mods you can do. as it stands your losing massive amounts of power throught the stock unit before the diff ecu upgrade. and for suspension id reccomend the h&r, its pretty standard but they have consistant performance on all their applications.
Power loss is variable, though... when driving in a straight line, very little power is lost through the rear because the rear clutch pack is disconnected from the driveshaft -- so it just freewheels, so to speak. The front diff upgrade, OTOH, is worth every penny... I just don't have enough pennies to buy one. :P Power isn't really "lost" through the front open diff so much as not transferred efficiently. I hate it, but its effects are somewhat mitigated thanks to the Haldex AWD.

And I already have upgrade to the Euro-OEM suspension, which is what our cars should have had from the beginning. 1000% better! H&R springs and Bilstein dampers.

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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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I would say, you are crazy. You'll realize that after you get spnaked by an EVO.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by sMIThSUBISHI23
Well Sorry guys I sold the Evo. The evo is a great car, but i have to say after driving the r32 for about 2 weeks now I just flat out like the r32 more. If i really could have my way I would have kept the evo and tuned it like crazy and bought the r32 as the daily. What the r32 lacks in power everything else it makes up for plus some. I think it handles just as good and probably would for sure if it had the same tires. I also kinda like the fact that the r32 is very rare. Just seeing if theres anyone else who feels the same or completely disagrees.

I also got a 100,000 mile warrenty good till December 2010, the r 32 had 18,000 miles on it. The warrenty was up on my evo in 3000 miles.
By what you're saying then the EVO is not for you. No! Nothing make up for the lack of power and saying the r32 handles as good or better than the EVO with the same tires is ignorant.

The r32 is not rare. I saw them almost every day driving to work. You bought the r32 is good for you but if you're comparing it to the evo then I will have to disargree. The evo is pure, raw performance machine where the r32 is just another bling car. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hating car but there're not many cars there that so pure and so raw like the evo.

If you like something else more than performance then you simply made a mistake from beggining when purchasing the evo. Enjoy your r32.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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An R32 is a nice car. I had a 2002 1.8T and it was pretty comfortable. It was a nice daily driver.

I'm sure that the R32 handles better than the 1.8T, and I'm sure it's quicker as well. I've heard they handle fairly well also.

Some owners claim they will run 13.90s in the 1/4, but I find it hard to believe for a car that weighs 3400 lbs and has 240 hp.

Anyway, the VR6 is a great engine. If you can afford to do a turbo setup on a VR6, those things are sickly fast.

An R32 is a great daily driver. Good luck with it.
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Old Oct 22, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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I hate hatch backs
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