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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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what blows me away is that the 335i is basically as fast as the M6 and faster than the MZ4....
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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lets not get crazy here, that is a very high speed course the numbers are where they should, get a tighter course and the evo would be near the top.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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VIR rocks!
I love that place.

Carrol Shelby “One lap at VIR is like a hundred at Watkins Glen.”

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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I'm sure if they actually used some good drivers, this list would change dramatically.
If anything, it would further separate the Z06.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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335i and Z4M faster than the Evo
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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a tight course would futher seperate the evo from the zo6, u are 1000% wrong, the zo6 makes all its ground on the highspeed parts, stock evos fall flat at 5500 rpm.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kinloch99
a tight course would futher seperate the evo from the zo6, u are 1000% wrong, the zo6 makes all its ground on the highspeed parts, stock evos fall flat at 5500 rpm.
I'd have to agree with kinlock99.
Everytime i goto VIR... I eat up corvettes on the twisty tight areas... the long straights are where they pull away.

of course.. i'm not quite stock either.... but my suspension was.

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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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Sounds to me like the 997 Turbo was having problems.

Despite a strong 480 horsepower, it wasn’t that happy around VIR and ran an unexpectedly mediocre 3:05.8 time, partly because of its 3528-pound mass, partly because the power went away after a couple of laps, and partly because it really doesn’t like to dance
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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by the way this is at VIR full course
Actually it was on the grand course, not the full course.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by steve_evo
I'm sure if they actually used some good drivers, this list would change dramatically.
What is your basis for thinking the driving is poor? Having driven VIR and looking at their MPH through different sections, I think they were moving along at a good pace. 130 mph at the top of the uphill esses is nothing to sneeze at.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Actually it was on the grand course, not the full course.
I see the grand course adds sector 3 and 4, sorry about that.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
What is your basis for thinking the driving is poor?
The Evo wasn't the fastest car on the list, it must have been bad driving.


I can't think of any track where a stock Evo would hold a candle to a stock Z06. The Z06 handles most types of turns better, has more power, better brakes, and in the hands of a competent driver is insanely fast. Yes, you can modify an Evo to make up ground (particularly in the power department) but you'll never overcome the deficiency in aerodynamics and weight distribution. And yes, on a track where trap speeds over 120 are the norm, aero is a big part. I just can't understand why so many people can't grasp that the Evo is a flawed vehicle when compared to purpose built sports cars.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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I wouldn't call the Evo Flawed, especially when none of us have tried the FQ series, particuarly the FQ360.


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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kinloch99
the zo6 makes all its ground on the highspeed parts.
the z06 makes its ground in all aspects of the track, not solely the highspeed part. This is especially true if you have a skillful driver, as the z06 is not an easy car to master in one day. I do however agree it will pull on the evo even harder in the highspeed parts due to its aerodynamics.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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Wait the evo lost, how is that possible? Jeez guys, it's a nice car but come on, it's also a 35000$ 4-door 4-banger, it's not meant to compete against something like a Z06. Put the Z06 on a dirt road or ice covered road and see how well it does, they are simply built for completely different purposes.
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