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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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the VIII and IX running less psi out from factory. So if the FMIC is a same size can be a cause of the heat soaking. But i'm not an expert on this one. Just an idea.
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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Wow, I just read the results from BR's testing on the stock FMIC. Its crazy how much heat is getting trapped into the thing. I dont know why, but it feels like something is off on it for some reason. How could it possibly be that bad. I think I am going to go do some real world testing tonight, Ill post my results. Wish I could get measurements while I am moving, but thats just not possible right now. Unless I can get that guy from Comedy Centrals American Hotrod to hang off my car for analysis while driving
Yeah, maybe something was wrong with their car's FMIC. But, I think David would have noted it. Anyhow, the numbers are somewhat staggering. That's why I said either the X's stock FMIC is really really bad or the Buschur replacement is really really good.

And, yes, please get that dude to hang off the car for analysis
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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The BR "Race FMIC" for the VII/IX cars keeps the intake temp under 125 degrees in the summer at VIR and Mid Ohio and out west here at WSIR and Buttonwillow. BR wants to maintain this same performance for the "X" so they are "GOING BIG" from the beginning....that and full hard pipe vs a bunch of hose will yield = spool imo
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Old Mar 4, 2008 | 01:12 PM
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Good info Robi. Thanks!
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:47 AM
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I have to agree dont like the new look at all!! Should have upped the hp and kept the old style body
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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I have to agree dont like the new look at all!! Should have upped the hp and kept the old style body

+ 1, hate the new look. Looks like any other NEW aerodynamic car out there but I still have to acknowledge its My Evo VIIIs little brother...
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Have you seen that new vid on youtube were the mom with Evo 9 test drives the X .. I think she wraped it all up with theses words.. the 9 is a Race Car.. and the X is a Sports Car..
Not saying that the X is weak by any means.. just like the way she put it
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:45 AM
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It doesn't really matter what the pre-condition is for the intercooler. Even if the wind was blowing through it, that just masks the problem in realworld conditions. If the intercooler isn't able to dissipate the heat from the turbo well enough, even if the air is flowing through it, it will eventually heat soak and cause a decrease in power.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying here. Are you saying that air flow through an intercooler just hides issues? That logic seems flawed to me since the design of our air to air intercooler is strictly based on air flow to work properly.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PDXEvo
Maybe I am not understanding what you are saying here. Are you saying that air flow through an intercooler just hides issues? That logic seems flawed to me since the design of our air to air intercooler is strictly based on air flow to work properly.
It's actually HOW the intercooler uses that air to disspate heat that matters. By your rationale, all intercoolers are basically similar in performance if the SAME air flows through all of them (which is definitely not correct). The intercooler's ability to EXCHANGE heat is what's important.

Evaluating with airflow or no airflow won't matter. Airflow just adds another volitale variable into the results. I agree with Buschur's tests. Taking away the crux of outside ambient air, while not representative of the realworld, does indeed test the intercooler's ability to exchange heat.

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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 04:15 PM
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I see what you are saying, but I would believe that the design of the intercooler would be such that it takes air movement into the variable for the design. But, I am not an expert on such things, so I have no real platform to stand on.
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Old Mar 5, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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For all the naysayers of aluminum blocks... here is a OPEN DECK aluminum block, engine is stock from oil pan to valve cover. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...5400e4352a.htm 601whp at 22psi, 518whp on 93 octane.

edit: fixed link

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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Guerillah
For all the naysayers of aluminum blocks... here is a OPEN DECK aluminum block, engine is stock from oil pan to valve cover. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/9...5400e4352a.htm 601whp at 22psi, 518whp on 93 octane
Link no worky. What kind of car is it?
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:23 AM
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fixed the link.
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Old Mar 6, 2008 | 08:50 AM
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Thats insaine~! Hows that High Compression engine take that much boost without blowing?
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