Chevy Cobalt SS turbo vs Evo X
i found some dyno results, and on a dynojet the cobalt put out 240whp. EVO IX's on similar dyno's put out 260-270whp as i've stated like 100 times already. applying a 15% drivetrain loss, that would put the Cobalt SS's actual CHP at roughly 280hp. so Chevy is underrating them slightly at 260hp. Using 19% drivetrain loss, at 265whp, the car's actual output at the crank is roughly 325hp.
in summary, both motors are underrated. the drivetrain loss is irrelevant to the arguement as to which one puts more power to the wheels, because as i show you below the Cobalt SS puts down 240whp on a dynojet, and the EVO IX MR puts down 265whp on a dynojet. yes, there are variations from any dyno to any other dyno, but the point is the same. the EVO IX puts more power to the wheels than the cobalt because the damn motor puts out more power. wow, really hard concept to understand. also, those dyno numbers for the cobalt SS aren't corrected, so the actual numbers may be lower.
EVO IX MR BONE STOCK 265whp
Cobalt SS TC bone stock 240whp
in summary, both motors are underrated. the drivetrain loss is irrelevant to the arguement as to which one puts more power to the wheels, because as i show you below the Cobalt SS puts down 240whp on a dynojet, and the EVO IX MR puts down 265whp on a dynojet. yes, there are variations from any dyno to any other dyno, but the point is the same. the EVO IX puts more power to the wheels than the cobalt because the damn motor puts out more power. wow, really hard concept to understand. also, those dyno numbers for the cobalt SS aren't corrected, so the actual numbers may be lower.
EVO IX MR BONE STOCK 265whp
Cobalt SS TC bone stock 240whp
This talk of underrated is itself silly and has been covered before. In essence, given the way HP is rated, it's unlikely. You seem to have a major issue with magazine numbers yet you quote a magazine as proof of your claims.
i quoted magazine dyno numbers. you quoted magazine drag racing times. HUGE difference. you can dyno a car and not know how to drag race it. one has nothing to do with the other. i don't need a magazine to tell me how fast my car is because i've already taken it to the track and found out.
stop grasping at straws and just admit you're wrong, or just STFU. I don't have to imagine anything because luckily people all over the world have strapped EVO's and Cobalts to dyno's and posted the results. My brain actually works well enough that i can judge what numbers are good numbers to use based on dyno type/conditions, etc, to make an average to get an idea of what the car's are capable of power wise in stock form. the numbers won't be 100% correct, but they are close enough to make the statement that the EVO IX puts down more power at the wheels than the damn cobalt SS.
you're just clinging to imaginary theoretical bull****. you even say it. it's not hard to "imagine." I don't need to imagine, or mag race. stop being a troll.
Last edited by ODUB; Jul 1, 2009 at 05:08 PM.
you cant compare the two, except honestly both of them will make you happy considering your present vehicle.
If you can barely afford the X, I'd actually say go for the SS. It's been talked about many times but the up-front costs for the evo are just the beginning. These cars cost a fair deal of coin to maintain properly, and the SS may be a better fit as a daily driver if you're feeling the economic crunch.
After your first year of owning the evo, you'll need new tires, drivetrain maintenance, and you'll probably also be staring down the cost list of any mods you've decided you want for the car. This is not a complaint, it's an FYI. If you turn your own wrenches, you can save *some* money. Bottom line: people who buy 30K cars will never accept that a 20K car can be anywhere near as good, all the while claiming they are keeping up with 60K cars themselves. It's ironic. Ignore it all. Compare your wallet to your wishlist and call it a day. Good luck, sir!
If you can barely afford the X, I'd actually say go for the SS. It's been talked about many times but the up-front costs for the evo are just the beginning. These cars cost a fair deal of coin to maintain properly, and the SS may be a better fit as a daily driver if you're feeling the economic crunch.
After your first year of owning the evo, you'll need new tires, drivetrain maintenance, and you'll probably also be staring down the cost list of any mods you've decided you want for the car. This is not a complaint, it's an FYI. If you turn your own wrenches, you can save *some* money. Bottom line: people who buy 30K cars will never accept that a 20K car can be anywhere near as good, all the while claiming they are keeping up with 60K cars themselves. It's ironic. Ignore it all. Compare your wallet to your wishlist and call it a day. Good luck, sir!
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