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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:50 PM
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Yep I sure am for quoting actual facts rather than throwing out youtube videos of heavily modified cars. You have fun with your hopped up Lancer, I'm sure all the ZR1 owners are hurt that you think their supercar isn't that impressive, they'll probably cry themselves to sleep after they crack off a 10 second 1/4 mile with the AC on and the stereo blaring Meatloaf.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Last comment: I would be one pissed off person if I spent over $125k on a car only to run 10s (maybe high 9s on a good day).
The stupidity in these threads is amazing. A nearly stock car that runs low 10s and some idiot on here would be pissed off if it was his $125k. It's obvious with the brain power on display, there's no need to ever worry about being disappointed after purchasing a $125k car.

For the record, for about $20k you can build a Honda or Ford that runs 10s, but that has absolutely no relevance to the ZR1.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Unfortunately with that amount of power and driving on MT Street Radials...that time and trap speed is not impressive. We have heavier, less powerful, and street tire driven Evos running quicker.
You said this not me I'm just waiting for your example. There are 0 evos that fit your criteria.

Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
I believe there are a few people on this forum who have ran mid 12s on a bone stock Evo. I'd consider that impressive given the fact that it makes under 300awhp and weighs 3200 or more lbs. A car making over 700 ft-lbs of torque @ 2k, weighing around 3300 lbs, riding on DRs and running a 10.0 isn't impressive. Another impressive feat is a 3200 lb car making 670awhp running 9.1.
No, 12.5's, sorry come again.

I'm being unfair anway and since I've bought tons from Buschur in the past and used to follow him on MDSOG (do you know what that is? Think back about 20 years ago!!) I know how good he is and how well his cars are set up.....his cars are not the norm. Having owned 6 4g63 powered vehicles ranging from 300whp-575awhp I know a good deal about the platform no newbiness here.

There are no EVOs that weigh over 3300lbs, use street tires, with or without A/C that run 10.0's@141mph on pump.

There are a handful that run low 10's@135mph+ on street tires on pump.

When you start bringing up the fastest "street driven" EVO's none have A/C, all use motorcycle slicks or reg. slicks, all have the best of the best setups and drivers!! We are talking a handful of cars with 30K+ setups and needing new clutches, diffs, and TC's, are not uncommon carnage either.

In the end the ZR-1 owner could go build the baddest EVO around for less than 1/2 of the cost of a ZR-1.....the $$/performance ratio is stupid anyway and only for the ones that can't afford the car in question. I could have finished my EVO build, but like I've stated countless times since owning the Z06 I wouldn't trade it for any EVO.

Lastly, you seem like the type that would completely change your tune if this was a GTR, but maybe not EVO's are awesome and I would love to have another in addition to the Z06 let alone a ZR-1.

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Another thing to think about, this ZR1 would not only crack off 10s all day long, with the occasional high 9s, but it could then take these supposedly "Heavier, less powerful, faster" Evos to nearly any road course of their choosing and absolutely embarrass them.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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haha wow
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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I see both sides of this.

When you go to the dragstrip. Its all about the speed, the ET, nothing more. People don't care what you do for a living, how much you're car originally cost, etc, etc. Bragging rights belong to those who win.
Maybe its just the south, but there are plenty of rednecks around here who would love for some doctor to show up in a brand new ZR-1 and get spanked by some old rusty Fox body or Nova with a big block and spray built in somebody's back yard over a few six packs. It shouldn't matter if the ZR-1 is nicer, or would win on a roadcourse, what matters is who crosses the line first, and if you did it in a gutted Evo with slicks, or a stock Veyron, is secondary.

That being said. The ZR-1 is bad ***.
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
That being said. The ZR-1 is bad ***.
Yup - it was worthy of gawking for about 5 minutes in the paddock
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
I see both sides of this.

When you go to the dragstrip. Its all about the speed, the ET, nothing more. People don't care what you do for a living, how much you're car originally cost, etc, etc. Bragging rights belong to those who win.
Maybe its just the south, but there are plenty of rednecks around here who would love for some doctor to show up in a brand new ZR-1 and get spanked by some old rusty Fox body or Nova with a big block and spray built in somebody's back yard over a few six packs. It shouldn't matter if the ZR-1 is nicer, or would win on a roadcourse, what matters is who crosses the line first, and if you did it in a gutted Evo with slicks, or a stock Veyron, is secondary.

That being said. The ZR-1 is bad ***.
I agree!! My argument was this statement the rest was just POV. There is no EVO that does this.

Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
Unfortunately with that amount of power and driving on MT Street Radials...that time and trap speed is not impressive. We have heavier, less powerful, and street tire driven Evos running quicker.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sEvoIXnTurboS2k
First off I am a Vette fan...thanks.

Reliability aside...the numbers themselves (aside from the freakish power) are nothing to brag about. A bone stock C6 Z06 has ran 10.981 @ 128 and another with DRs alone ran 10.856 @ 129. Now that is what you call impressive.

While that ZR1 is making some amazing power, its quarter mile time is almost shameful.
I'm pretty sure this run wasn't in -DA like those Z06 runs you mention
It is a bolt on car trapping 140+ with a few thousand dollars in mods (pulleys and supercharger port work). It also has one of the fastest times around the Ring.

It already has the trap speeds to run 9s, it's just spinning the tires.

Even if you profess to be a Corvette guy, you need to have your *** removed for calling a bolt on, 9sec vette shamefull.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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i thought the z06 was supercharged too, dont they have the plexiglass on the hood to see the supercharger?
Yeah, and as far as I herd, the zo6 has a different block. I believe the ZR1 has the same block and the standard C6 but supercharged, someone correct me if I am wrong. Among other things, ZR1 is lighter due to Carbon panels and a lighter carbon chassis. ZR1 also has gigantinc carbon ceramic breaks (same you would find on the Enzo).
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by slowTsi
you need to have your *** removed for calling a bolt on, 9sec vette shamefull.
Best advise.

There's nothing else in the world that has run a 10.0 with full stock exhaust and a few bolt-ons and yet the idiots on here are bashing it.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hacurio1
I believe the ZR1 has the same block as the standard C6 but supercharged, someone correct me if I am wrong.
Tis true. They decided the 6.2L block had more meat on its bones to withstand forced induction as opposed to the bored and stroked 7.0L in the Z06. What's even crazy is there's some company that bores the 7.0 even more and then turbocharges it. I had thought 7.0 was as big as a small block could get, and these guys go and twin turbo it. I wonder how that's going to work out in the long run.


Originally Posted by robertrinaustin
Best advise.
There's nothing else in the world that has run a 10.0 with full stock exhaust and a few bolt-ons and yet the idiots on here are bashing it.
True enough. But if you can even call it a "production car" which I doubt, I believe the R34 Z-tune runs a 10sec quarter, "stock." Probably not a 10.0 though.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hacurio1
Yeah, and as far as I herd, the zo6 has a different block. I believe the ZR1 has the same block and the standard C6 but supercharged, someone correct me if I am wrong. Among other things, ZR1 is lighter due to Carbon panels and a lighter carbon chassis. ZR1 also has gigantinc carbon ceramic breaks (same you would find on the Enzo).
I believe it weighs about 100 or so pounds more than the Z06 actually.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by McTwist
I believe it weighs about 100 or so pounds more than the Z06 actually.
Correct. As mentioned, the motor is also more closely related to the LS3, as they use the same bare block and identical bore and stroke specs.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by slowTsi
Correct. As mentioned, the motor is also more closely related to the LS3, as they use the same bare block and identical bore and stroke specs.

Yeah, the strung out LS7 didn't have much of a chance being supercharged.
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