Focus RS
Feb 1, 2016, 07:35 AM
#2446
EvoM Guru
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Yea, charity auctions don't count towards car value, at all.
Feb 1, 2016, 08:29 AM
#2448
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
just fyi, ASC full off does NOT disengage AYC. This is a common missinterpretation, but there is no way to disable the AYC (unless you remove the hydraulic lines I suppose).
ASC modes:
On - Uses brakes and limits power to regain control if slip is detected.
ASC off - A quick button press. This disables the ability of the car to kill throttle when slip is detected, but still will use individual wheel braking to regain control.
ASC off off - Holding the button for 3+ seconds: This removes the ability of the car to use individual braking of wheels.
So, with ASC partial off, the car will individually brake wheels in conjunction with the AYC unit to induce yaw. However, ASC full off never disables to operation of the AYC unit, the AYC unit will still actively distribute power in order to induce yaw.
ASC modes:
On - Uses brakes and limits power to regain control if slip is detected.
ASC off - A quick button press. This disables the ability of the car to kill throttle when slip is detected, but still will use individual wheel braking to regain control.
ASC off off - Holding the button for 3+ seconds: This removes the ability of the car to use individual braking of wheels.
So, with ASC partial off, the car will individually brake wheels in conjunction with the AYC unit to induce yaw. However, ASC full off never disables to operation of the AYC unit, the AYC unit will still actively distribute power in order to induce yaw.
I think it even says that on the cluster. "AYC Brake Disabled"
Feb 1, 2016, 08:57 AM
#2449
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
Ummm... source?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
Feb 1, 2016, 10:26 AM
#2451
EvoM Guru
iTrader: (1)
Feb 1, 2016, 11:54 AM
#2452
Ummm... source?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
i could be wrong here. like i said, it's early.
on a semi-related note, we just did an autox driver's school on Sat. one of my co-instructors had a student in a Focus ST. WOW. i really want one now LOL.
the driver was a complete noob and the car was still doing amazing things. he would come out of the corner of our Sweeper Drill at full throttle, inside front tire spinning and smoking like crazy, and the rear of the car STILL ROTATED AROUND. it was like watching an AWD car. all of us just stared with our mouths open. i've never seen one of these cars going full tilt. and from what i hear (i'm not very knowledgeable in autox), these cars are killing it on the national circuit, along with the Fiesta ST.
now... if i take what i saw that day and apply it to an AWD version with more power and torque? oh, muh gawd.
it's gonna turn poor drivers into poor drivers that are still fast (i.e. GTR). imagine what a good driver would be able to do.
Feb 1, 2016, 12:15 PM
#2453
on a semi-related note, we just did an autox driver's school on Sat. one of my co-instructors had a student in a Focus ST. WOW. i really want one now LOL.
the driver was a complete noob and the car was still doing amazing things. he would come out of the corner of our Sweeper Drill at full throttle, inside front tire spinning and smoking like crazy, and the rear of the car STILL ROTATED AROUND. it was like watching an AWD car.
the driver was a complete noob and the car was still doing amazing things. he would come out of the corner of our Sweeper Drill at full throttle, inside front tire spinning and smoking like crazy, and the rear of the car STILL ROTATED AROUND. it was like watching an AWD car.
It's like a Focus with 500lbs less and a shorter wheel base. Also has over 300wtq. I wasn't lying when I said I think it's one of the best handling FWD cars.
Feb 1, 2016, 03:12 PM
#2454
The Fiesta ST just shot way up on my "cars to own" list, assuming it has the same features.
I think I found a new daily driver/autox car.
Feb 1, 2016, 03:21 PM
#2455
I ended up loving it and picked one up the next week. That was almost two years ago now.
It was the first test drive where I felt the car was something special since my Evo, and I did ALOT of test drives.
The price helps too.
Not sure if you saw my build thread: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/lo...t-project.html
Feb 1, 2016, 04:57 PM
#2458
Ummm... source?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
just fyi, ASC full off does NOT disengage AYC. This is a common missinterpretation, but there is no way to disable the AYC (unless you remove the hydraulic lines I suppose).
ASC modes:
On - Uses brakes and limits power to regain control if slip is detected.
ASC off - A quick button press. This disables the ability of the car to kill throttle when slip is detected, but still will use individual wheel braking to regain control.
ASC off off - Holding the button for 3+ seconds: This removes the ability of the car to use individual braking of wheels.
So, with ASC partial off, the car will individually brake wheels in conjunction with the AYC unit to induce yaw. However, ASC full off never disables to operation of the AYC unit, the AYC unit will still actively distribute power in order to induce yaw.
Yep. It disables the AYC brake, not SAYC.
I think it even says that on the cluster. "AYC Brake Disabled"
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
I need to dig around but I'm pretty sure you are wrong on this one.
I have an '08, but someone with a newer model with the color screen can you confirm this? Here's a quote from another forum, this would confirm that the car uses brakes to induce yaw movement (which I'm 99% confident it does).
In response to a discussion about asc settings:
just fyi, ASC full off does NOT disengage AYC. This is a common missinterpretation, but there is no way to disable the AYC (unless you remove the hydraulic lines I suppose).
ASC modes:
On - Uses brakes and limits power to regain control if slip is detected.
ASC off - A quick button press. This disables the ability of the car to kill throttle when slip is detected, but still will use individual wheel braking to regain control.
ASC off off - Holding the button for 3+ seconds: This removes the ability of the car to use individual braking of wheels.
So, with ASC partial off, the car will individually brake wheels in conjunction with the AYC unit to induce yaw. However, ASC full off never disables to operation of the AYC unit, the AYC unit will still actively distribute power in order to induce yaw.
Yep. It disables the AYC brake, not SAYC.
I think it even says that on the cluster. "AYC Brake Disabled"
Not saying that internet posts are word of god, but can someone with a newer model confirm the screen says "AYC Brake Disabled" when they hold the ASC for 5 seconds?
You know this already, but you can prove it easily if you ever overdrive the car on purpose, especially in the wet. Press ASC once to stop engine cut intervention. Press and hold to disable the engine cut and SAWC braking, making the X behave exactly like an Evo IX SAYC system with zero brake intervention that the rest of the world (except the USA) has. You cannot override SAYC by pressing any button combination, nor would you want to, because you'd effectively have an open rear differential.
SAYC itself transfers torque, it doesn't limit like the "e-diff" in the STI or XDS in a VW.
Source: I know how SAYC works. I've owned 3 SAWC Evo Xs and driven 2 SAYC Evos pre X (VI & VII).
If you're stubborn:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/en/...ary/s-awc.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_S-AWC
Feb 1, 2016, 05:51 PM
#2459
Everything in that quote you posted is technically correct. If you press and hold ASC, the HUD does say "AYC brake off", which is where your confusion stems from.
You know this already, but you can prove it easily if you ever overdrive the car on purpose, especially in the wet. Press ASC once to stop engine cut intervention. Press and hold to disable the engine cut and SAWC braking, making the X behave exactly like an Evo IX SAYC system with zero brake intervention that the rest of the world (except the USA) has. You cannot override SAYC by pressing any button combination, nor would you want to, because you'd effectively have an open rear differential.
SAYC itself transfers torque, it doesn't limit like the "e-diff" in the STI or XDS in a VW.
Source: I know how SAYC works. I've owned 3 SAWC Evo Xs and driven 2 SAYC Evos pre X (VI & VII).
If you're stubborn:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/en/...ary/s-awc.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_S-AWC
You know this already, but you can prove it easily if you ever overdrive the car on purpose, especially in the wet. Press ASC once to stop engine cut intervention. Press and hold to disable the engine cut and SAWC braking, making the X behave exactly like an Evo IX SAYC system with zero brake intervention that the rest of the world (except the USA) has. You cannot override SAYC by pressing any button combination, nor would you want to, because you'd effectively have an open rear differential.
SAYC itself transfers torque, it doesn't limit like the "e-diff" in the STI or XDS in a VW.
Source: I know how SAYC works. I've owned 3 SAWC Evo Xs and driven 2 SAYC Evos pre X (VI & VII).
If you're stubborn:
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.com/en/...ary/s-awc.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_S-AWC
sorry
