2016 Mustang GT350
gt350
For 2016 you had to choose either the technology package or the track package. The track package has the recaros but no navigation and touch screen. Technology package has the navigation and touch screen but ugly *** seats. I am looking at buying one with the track package tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. I sold my evo ix tonight so there's no turning back now.
got a ride in a GT350 (non R) yesterday at the track... I gotta say compared to the Z28 I'm not that impressed. although its really the R that goes up against the Z28 with its magnetic shocks.
grip wasn't as high, body control wasn't as good... and to be honest the engine doesn't sound good, to the point where it started getting annoying. it was just like a drummer hitting the same drum really fast.
it does rev though.. seams like it never runs out of gear, he pretty much did the whole track in 3rd. and it definitely has power, although my perception was a bit skewed as I was coming out of a Miata, haha. but it really does pin you in the seat hard when he steps on the gas. I also got a ride in a 458 the same day, butt dyno, they're pretty close as far as straight line speed goes
grip wasn't as high, body control wasn't as good... and to be honest the engine doesn't sound good, to the point where it started getting annoying. it was just like a drummer hitting the same drum really fast.
it does rev though.. seams like it never runs out of gear, he pretty much did the whole track in 3rd. and it definitely has power, although my perception was a bit skewed as I was coming out of a Miata, haha. but it really does pin you in the seat hard when he steps on the gas. I also got a ride in a 458 the same day, butt dyno, they're pretty close as far as straight line speed goes
Have a track friend that says the GT350 (without track package with additional coolers) overheats about 15 mins into a track session. Obviously this is going to be track and driver dependent.
He is now regretting not getting the track pack. I heard the MY17's come standard with the coolers.
He is now regretting not getting the track pack. I heard the MY17's come standard with the coolers.
The GT350 has regular 300tw pilot super sports on it, which aren't even remotely comparable to the 60tw Pirelli Trofeo's on the Z28. So there's your grip. As far as the suspension, the Gt350 is still very much a street car where the Z28 is a stripped out factory built track car. The GT350r would be a better comparison, but it still doesn't come with comparable tires. The 180tw Pilot sport cup 2's are not nearly as sticky as the 60tw Pirelli's on the Z28.
I did say its the R thats comparable to the Z28... I'm under no illusions here, just that the non R is the closest I could get. and considering the price the non R is still as much or more than the Z28. as far as I'm concerned, the only thing special about the regular GT350 is the engine... which doesn't sound good... even though its a lot closer to msrp than the R, its not worth the money in my book
The whole front is different on the GT350 over the base mustangs. Hood, fenders, bumper. Wider wheels/tires. Better brakes. Better transmission and engine. Etc Etc. it wasn't built with the same thing in mind as the Z28.
I just feel like you're comparing two cars that aren't in the same class, thats all..
One on rcomp tires that's tuned around being a track weapon, with bare bones interior. And one on street tires and a nice interior that's much more a street car.
The outgoing ZL1 would have been more comparable to the GT350.
One on rcomp tires that's tuned around being a track weapon, with bare bones interior. And one on street tires and a nice interior that's much more a street car.
The outgoing ZL1 would have been more comparable to the GT350.
Every post I made on the subject I mentioned that the R is the proper competitor to the Z28. I am however comparing them in the fact that they're both special pony car models and price. The R may be the right competitor to the Z28, but with dealer mark up, and dealer discount on the Z28, it's a good 50k price difference right now... Prolly gonna be reversed when the next gen Z28 comes to market though...
The main thing I'm saying is I don't think the regular GT350 is special enough to justify the price. If I were in the market right now and wanted a Mustang and had 60-70k to spend, I'd buy a GT and modify that. There's no secret sauce in the GT350, nothing that makes it feel special. It just felt like a regular Mustang that was fast and had an annoying sounding (to me) engine.
Last year I got a ride in a Z28 at the same track, my mind was completely blown, not just grip, I know that's mostly tires, but just the way the chassis behaved. Nearly no body roll, no pitch or squat either, yet it absorbed bumps and curbs perfectly, there was nothing that could upset the chassis, and not for lack of trying either, the guy was driving pretty sloppy... I know again that the R is the right competitor for this with its magnetic shocks, and it may very well have the same bullet proof chassis... But honestly, if you can afford an R right now you can afford a Ferrari. But that's besides the point, the point is that the standard GT350 isn't special enough to command a 60-70k price tag for me.
The main thing I'm saying is I don't think the regular GT350 is special enough to justify the price. If I were in the market right now and wanted a Mustang and had 60-70k to spend, I'd buy a GT and modify that. There's no secret sauce in the GT350, nothing that makes it feel special. It just felt like a regular Mustang that was fast and had an annoying sounding (to me) engine.
Last year I got a ride in a Z28 at the same track, my mind was completely blown, not just grip, I know that's mostly tires, but just the way the chassis behaved. Nearly no body roll, no pitch or squat either, yet it absorbed bumps and curbs perfectly, there was nothing that could upset the chassis, and not for lack of trying either, the guy was driving pretty sloppy... I know again that the R is the right competitor for this with its magnetic shocks, and it may very well have the same bullet proof chassis... But honestly, if you can afford an R right now you can afford a Ferrari. But that's besides the point, the point is that the standard GT350 isn't special enough to command a 60-70k price tag for me.
Every post I made on the subject I mentioned that the R is the proper competitor to the Z28. I am however comparing them in the fact that they're both special pony car models and price. The R may be the right competitor to the Z28, but with dealer mark up, and dealer discount on the Z28, it's a good 50k price difference right now... Prolly gonna be reversed when the next gen Z28 comes to market though...
The main thing I'm saying is I don't think the regular GT350 is special enough to justify the price. If I were in the market right now and wanted a Mustang and had 60-70k to spend, I'd buy a GT and modify that. There's no secret sauce in the GT350, nothing that makes it feel special. It just felt like a regular Mustang that was fast and had an annoying sounding (to me) engine.
Last year I got a ride in a Z28 at the same track, my mind was completely blown, not just grip, I know that's mostly tires, but just the way the chassis behaved. Nearly no body roll, no pitch or squat either, yet it absorbed bumps and curbs perfectly, there was nothing that could upset the chassis, and not for lack of trying either, the guy was driving pretty sloppy... I know again that the R is the right competitor for this with its magnetic shocks, and it may very well have the same bullet proof chassis... But honestly, if you can afford an R right now you can afford a Ferrari. But that's besides the point, the point is that the standard GT350 isn't special enough to command a 60-70k price tag for me.
The main thing I'm saying is I don't think the regular GT350 is special enough to justify the price. If I were in the market right now and wanted a Mustang and had 60-70k to spend, I'd buy a GT and modify that. There's no secret sauce in the GT350, nothing that makes it feel special. It just felt like a regular Mustang that was fast and had an annoying sounding (to me) engine.
Last year I got a ride in a Z28 at the same track, my mind was completely blown, not just grip, I know that's mostly tires, but just the way the chassis behaved. Nearly no body roll, no pitch or squat either, yet it absorbed bumps and curbs perfectly, there was nothing that could upset the chassis, and not for lack of trying either, the guy was driving pretty sloppy... I know again that the R is the right competitor for this with its magnetic shocks, and it may very well have the same bullet proof chassis... But honestly, if you can afford an R right now you can afford a Ferrari. But that's besides the point, the point is that the standard GT350 isn't special enough to command a 60-70k price tag for me.
Not even close. Maintenance costs on a Ferrari if you want to actually drive it are next level..











