sorry ot whats the main diff between the r32 and gti price and specs too

 

i don't know how much they want for the r-32, but i thought the r-32 was close to $40k.

As far as specs go the r-32 is AWD with a 240HP v-6

 

Calling the driver "Terrific" would be an understatement, but judging by what I've read and seen in car mags and car reviews, the SRT4 is better handling than the R/T which is already a very mean road racer in itself.

PVO is coming out with mods you can put on that are factory-backed. Their very own Mopar Stage 1 thru 4. Supposedly, SRTs are coming with LSDs for 2004.

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As for the majority of SRT owners, you know they're going to be of a younger demographic than the EVO on the basis that the car is a mere $20,000 or so? I registered on an SRT forum to clear up some misconceptions about the WRX and I was met with immaturity to the point where I even came up with a taunt exclusive to the SRT.

If you really want to know what it is, it's nothing special. If you understand it, it's pretty funny and people with SRTs aren't going to realize it right away. PM me or something if your curiosity gets the better of you.

Anyway, what I didn't like about the SRT forum, the thing I hated the most, was one member by the name of hemidakota. He called me a troll, but he was a post wh0r3. I had registered so I could clear up some WRX misconceptions.
My ol' pal Hemi told me to "Bring it on" but when I asked him what he meant, he laughed and said "You want to kick my *** or something?" He was about the most immature person over 40 years of age I have ever met. He started a thread bashing imports by showing a 10-liter V10 that did 1000hp without any FI and then saying it was superior because it had no turbo or nitrous. Duh, it has ten cylinders.
He finally shut up after he started a thread comparing bashing the STi Spec C Type RA, and he did it by comparing it to the Pikes Peak Escudo which is purpose built to climb one mountain. My wonderful friend, ihatebobbarker, sugested that since the SRT4 is the "fastest car evar," (something hemi had in his sig) that the SRT it might be faster than the PP Escudo.

Now that it's too late to make a long post short...

I like the SRT4, but it's not my "thing." Intepret that any way you'd like, I like them, I respect them (and few select owners) but wouldn't really want one.

I love the EVO. I've been fascinated with them, and I didn't have to discover them through Gran Turismo! So far, most of you guys have been pretty cool.

I love the normal WRX and the STi. They're great cars, too, and quirky enough to be...cool? I feel the same way towards the majority of WRX owners.

Enough said.

 

supposedly in dec the R32 will be out with awd (haldex type) with 240 hp and 236ish ft lbs, 3300 lbs, 6 sp, leather. supposed to be under 35k. i had a 337 GTi and it is basically the ae, without some interior trim and no sunroof. miss mine, but couldn't afford to have both. the 337 and ae are probably as close to the original GTi. the other GTis are too soft in the suspension and too many luxo goodies.

the R32 held up pretty well vs the STi and EVO on blue monday.

torn between two camps: EVO and VW.

 

Friend of mine has a SRT-4 and another friend is gonna buy one soon. Like you guys said, you can't beat it for the price. Personal preference though, I really don't like the look of it. And I know some people who don't like the look of the Evo, so it doesn't really bother me.

All the car needs is to be lowered about 2", try on a new wing and come blue from the factory w/ a LSD. If I had an extra $20 grand laying around, I would have one of them in addition to the Evo.

 

First off, there was never ever gonna be a stage 4... And the MOPAR mod's are not factory backed just inhouse tested at DCX which no other aftermarket company can say. It's not supposed, the LSD is stock for 04, they are in production right now. Just to clear up a few misconceptions.


I'm curious, I have an SRT-4 with 4500 miles now and I've noticed nothing but that I love it. Please enlighten me as to what I'll realize, this oughta be rich..... Please tell me how $20k for 13 Second 1/4's is not special? I'm sorry 20K plus a $100 boost controller for mid-13 second quarter miles.


I respect an objective opinion, but when you show your true colors by trying to add in little jabs at another car, I'm gonna have to point it out.

 

If you are going to be building a race machine, stay away from the VW. Parts are expensive, and the MK IV is heavy to start with. I personally believe that the SRT-4 aftermarket is going to explode and once you get an LSD and some decent suspension on it, the car is going to handle like its on rail, much like its ancestors the Neon ACR's.

 

I agree with TYPE III...though I like the styling of the GTI better. Part options are just too few. But I would wait for the 2nd year of SRT-4...never I repeat never buy a first -year model car. Wait till they get all kinks out first. Besides thats usually when the auto makers include/change things on cars...by getting consumer feedback.

 

I personally go with SRT-4. Aftermarket wise that car is getting sicker everyday. I read an article on that car and they had nothing bad to say. Yea, it's american but it still has a Mitsubishi Turbo. Besides American cars are turning around these days and making a better name for themselves. I don't think it will break down in a year that's BS. Anyway I like the GTI's always did. I know a few people who have VW's other than the GTI's and they seem to have electrical problems. I don't know never owned a VW but this girl I know has an 82 Rabbit. I think that was the year. Cool car. Anyway SRT-4 all the way. For the price it can't be beat. Besides the front of the car looks awesome. The back looks like a regular Neon except for the exhaust. I am sure a body kit could change that. After all a new Turbo is on it's way for the car. Sick serious crap man. Good luck to whatever car you buy

 

All you guys saying the neon is crap, don't forget that the next gen. neon and lancer will be the same car.

As far as choosing between the GTI and the SRT,
GTI = much nicer
SRT = faster
Whats more important to you?

 

I personally go with SRT-4. Aftermarket wise that car is getting sicker everyday. I read an article on that car and they had nothing bad to say. Yea, it's american but it still has a Mitsubishi Turbo. Besides American cars are turning around these days and making a better name for themselves. I don't think it will break down in a year that's BS. Anyway I like the GTI's always did. I know a few people who have VW's other than the GTI's and they seem to have electrical problems. I don't know never owned a VW but this girl I know has an 82 Rabbit. I think that was the year. Cool car. Anyway SRT-4 all the way. For the price it can't be beat. Besides the front of the car looks awesome. The back looks like a regular Neon except for the exhaust. I am sure a body kit could change that. After all a new Turbo is on it's way for the car. Sick serious crap man. Good luck to whatever car you buy

 

I would agree with you if you mean that VW usually tries to keep up with the times as far as technology and comfort. As far as build quality is concerned though. They're ****in glued together from the inside out. Build quality is no better than the Neon.

 

I read about the Mopar stages in a Motor Trend as I was flipping through it. I thought I saw a Stage 4 off-road-use-only stage there, and the article did mention the word "warranty." Since nobody likes being wrong, thank you for correcting me.

I didn't say the car was gonna break down or anything. Hell, I don't pretend the hate the car, because I'll admit that it can't be beat for the price. Never said it wasn't special (more like spectacular). It's like gay marriage, there's no real reason against the SRT4. It goes fast, it turns, etc.
I've seen all the videos, I've chatted with SRT4 owners, etc. But the reason I wouldn't get one is because it's not my thing, the same reason why everybody who has an EVO on this board didn't get an STi, F-Body, or Cobra.
Find me a quote where I say I hate the car before you start hating on me please.

What jabs? My SRT4 taunt is directed mostly towards the idiots at SRTforums.com.

 

Actually, it's the other way around...you are incorrect.

 

The Lancer series exists way before the EVO series (starting 92, CD9A chassis). The CD9A EVO GSR was developed based on the existing Lancer GSR chassis with the addition of the 4G63 and the corresponding AWD system. So goes the EVO II and EVO III, which also based on the similar based platform, with a different chassis code of CE9A.

Then in mid-late 1995, the new body Lancer (5G Mirage) was debut and that is BEFORE the production of EVO IV (CN9A).

The R&D of EVO VII was NOT in effect (due to shortage of fund AND the recall scandal) after the current generation Lancer was developed. It took Mitsubishi over 2 years to get the EVO VII on the market...

Mitsubishi generates the majority of its revenue by selling the "bread-and-butter" models like regular Lancer and Galant. Logically speaking, do you think its financially feasable for a car company to develop a platform for a model with small target market rather than another model with much much bigger one?

I stick with my statement, and I don't see anything proving me incorrect with hard facts.