Civic Type R
a K20 has a better torque to hp ratio than nascar engines... for NA engines that rev to over 8k rpm it makes great torque. Its hands down the best NA 4 banger production engine and gives some race engines a run for their money. In fact the only car companies that have better power per liter out of NA engines are Ferrari and Porsche.
a K20 has a better torque to hp ratio than nascar engines... for NA engines that rev to over 8k rpm it makes great torque. Its hands down the best NA 4 banger production engine and gives some race engines a run for their money. In fact the only car companies that have better power per liter out of NA engines are Ferrari and Porsche.
Even my Fiesta makes more torque than that at the wheels at every.single.point in the RPM range at WOT.
Last edited by razorlab; Jun 2, 2017 at 04:27 PM.
of course your Fiesta makes more torque, its a turbo engine.. thats basically making a 1.6 breath the amount a 4.0L engine breaths, of course its gonna make more torque. put a turbo on a K20 and look at what happens
and I didn't that it makes more torque. I said it makes more torque per horsepower
for example, a nascar engine makes 850hp and 550tq. so 550/850=.65tq per every hp
a K20 makes 200hp and 142tq. so 142/200=.71tq per every hp
the point I'm making is the K20 is designed to make top end power, that means revving high and not being a torque monster. For the type of engine that it is, a high revving top end performer, it makes great torque. it makes power where it counts for winning races. I'm not saying its a torque monster, I'm saying for a high revving 4 banger, it makes great torque
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references:
http://hometracks.nascar.com/nascar_...nical_Elements
https://www.google.com/search?q=2005...x+type+s+specs
and I didn't that it makes more torque. I said it makes more torque per horsepower
for example, a nascar engine makes 850hp and 550tq. so 550/850=.65tq per every hp
a K20 makes 200hp and 142tq. so 142/200=.71tq per every hp
the point I'm making is the K20 is designed to make top end power, that means revving high and not being a torque monster. For the type of engine that it is, a high revving top end performer, it makes great torque. it makes power where it counts for winning races. I'm not saying its a torque monster, I'm saying for a high revving 4 banger, it makes great torque
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references:
http://hometracks.nascar.com/nascar_...nical_Elements
https://www.google.com/search?q=2005...x+type+s+specs
You can also put a turbo on a Honda. Turbo kits these days are dime a dozen and about as easy to install as a turbo swap on our cars. Also, They L O V E boost. All that efficiency + boost = a lot of fun.
I'm just going to stop you right there.
We are talking about a production Honda Civic.
Not a Nascar, an F1 race car, a nuclear submarine, the Starship Enterprise, or whatever other fantasy land comparison you want to make to argue your point.
Have a great day!
Last edited by razorlab; Jun 3, 2017 at 10:13 AM.
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honda used to make great engines no doubt about it. their v6s are overlooked, not even talking about the nsx either - the TL has a great engine.
in today's day, their old 4 bangers are dated. finally getting on the turbo bandwagon this generation, was not really a part of the japan 90s overbuilt iron block turbo engines. their f1 cars have had heaps of trouble. just not what they used to be.
FWIW the car i mentioned, the engine was def the best part about the car. it was also the only thing good about the car. felt like a cobbled together POS, nothing felt cohesive or "together" about it. revved to 8500, whoopdeedoo. it didn't have the midrange torque it needed in an autox and never felt like it was really in it's range to perform.
in today's day, their old 4 bangers are dated. finally getting on the turbo bandwagon this generation, was not really a part of the japan 90s overbuilt iron block turbo engines. their f1 cars have had heaps of trouble. just not what they used to be.
FWIW the car i mentioned, the engine was def the best part about the car. it was also the only thing good about the car. felt like a cobbled together POS, nothing felt cohesive or "together" about it. revved to 8500, whoopdeedoo. it didn't have the midrange torque it needed in an autox and never felt like it was really in it's range to perform.