CraZyx978, Arctic02z, and ta ace

I'm going to offer mediation in this case if you would like it. I think we can all work together and determine a fair way to go about proving any wrongs done, and determining a way to make it right by all parties. If any of you choose not to take advantage of this offer, I will assist the other party along with GDS to recuperate any losses. It would be better for everyone to simply cooperate with me and we can resolve this matter before it escalates beyond reproach.

The first thing I need you to do is PM me telling me whether you agree to let me be the middle man here. I will PM you back with my email address so I can collect data from everyone. I hope this sounds fair, please respond no later than tomorrow evening and avoid dragging this issue out any further into the public domain.

Thanks,

Jim

 

how is that right? end of the day i still need a engine for this car.. you want a head? ill send you my stock head off the engine that came w/ the car to make you happy if you'd like lol

the $700 refunded would go towards rebuilding this knocked engine you sent me

when you described it to be a 60k perfect motor then i get on here and find your thread and video w/ an engine knock and the SAME EXACT SYMPTOMS as this one... now thats sketchy!!

when you said the engine was shipped and i should have it then i get ahold of this shop you had ship it and it HAD NOT EVEN BEEN PICKED UP YET (week after being told it had shipped and you couldnt come up w/ a tracking number... remember this?) THAT WAS SKETCHY

but through all this bs up and down i had faith in you anyone else would have had red flags along time ago... when the "60k engine showed up on that pallet soaked in oil that you "drained" and why the front bolt that lets you access the balance shaft was missing is beyond me?! i bought a new oil cooler i put all new timing components and fresh fluids and ****. think ok even if this motor has been neglected for 60k now its got a face lift.

 

i don't no wat to say right now lol.. im on the work computer more then working.. but i want to make this right but all he wants to do is keep my faulty motor.. look if my motor is faulty as u said.. get a quote on how much to ship the motor back to me. i give u ur full refund and da money to ship da motor back to me. and i will also ship the trunk back to u. U NOT SPENDING MONEY AT ALL ok? hopefully that clear enough for u.

 

heres what i think.. Ta ace builds his own engines Crazyx978.. he can fix your shortblock, thats why he wants to keep it obviously.. he needs a core to work with.

he wants to keep your faulty engine and you dont want his wing.. find out what you can get for selling his wing then give him back half his $ ($350 refund) and call it even.

that is more then fair right there.. its still worth $ .. cores alone go for $500+

OR pay for the new bearings to be installed and rings, etc.. all damage.. that alone will probably be more then $350 though if the block requires machine work. (which it will if you change the rings)

The crank is most likely done also.. **** adds up quick.. he did get the longblock for dirt cheap.. but hes still entitled to a compensation due to the unlisted damages you didnt mention when you sold him the longblock as described working fine.

 

yeah but he said my motor is faulty it's knocking.. wat if the damage leads on to other things that broke.. scratch walls.. bent a valves anything can happen who u think he guna blame? me again.. so i just want to clear this up and save the headache. i will refund hes full amount also give him money to ship the motor back to me also i ship hes trunk back to him. am i wrong for wanting my faulty engine back? also just pull the pan out so i can see the worn bearings.

 

nope that sounds fair to me.. although the labor he spent hooking everything up goes out the window.. but thats what happens when you deal with this kind of stuff.. **** happens.

you should refund him in full then give him the $ to ship the engine back and hold his wing hostage until you receive the engine back so you have some leverage.

after you get everything then you ship his wing back to him

i did see your knock thread though.. and that is not cool man.. it takes a lot of labor to install these engines.. the transmission mounting alone is a *****, not counting all the gaskets and pulleys etc he spent $ on.. you realize he cant reuse gaskets he paid $ for?

see this is why he wants to keep it i bet.. you cant reuse gaskets over the gaskets add up quick.. not to mention if it is a spun rod bearing the shavings could potentially be in everything.. turbo, oil cooler, etc.. i dont know if yous ent him a 100% longblock with the turbo attached and etc.. but im just letting you know what potential rod bearing failure damage dcan do.. if you get unlucky enough the shavings will enter the head and scoar the camshafts and everything.. it gets messy quick.

ultimately i think you should refund atleast HALF of what he paid and forget about the situation.. you messed up and its a lesson learned.. you have to pay for it. if you're as legit as you sound you'll make the right decision.. i only responded in here because i gave him a base rom to fire your engine up and he was so upset when it was knocking right after he fired it up. (stock rom untouched with immobilizer disabled)

 

i already clear the knocking issue threat that i made.. that motor is still inside my car.. it had a collape lifter.. so i upgraded all the lifter.. that was the reason y i bought that motor i sold him.. turn out the shop found the problem and try to save me some money.. this i can also prove.. the vin to da block and to the car.. so both way i got screw i bought a screw motor i didn't no and now i'm losing money.. and the reason for wanting the motor back is cuz i bought the motor local and i no where the kid live. bought it for 2g.. i rather pay him to ship me the motor back and go to the kid house get my refund then let him keep it and acually me losing out.. i no he wasted his time on installing it.. but i also wasted my time too not just him.. atleast i'm tryin to make things right.. but every words that comming from him is. oh u want the motor so u can scam other ppl.. lol

 

that sounds like an awful lot of bad stuff.. it sounds like someone screwed you, then you sold the engine as good since you bought it from the other person that said the engine was good..

the thing is how would you feel if you installed that engine in your car to find out it was bad? you know shops charge $800+ in labor to do engine swaps and stuff? you cant just forget about that part.. this man installed the engine thinking it was good and now he is screwed..

even if he has to remove it and ship it back he still ends up on the ****ty side of the stick since he spent tons of time and labor and also his friends time putting this car together..

thinking about it more his proposal for you to keep the wing (which you can resell for $) and refunding his entire payment does seem fair after you figure all the time he took installing this engine.. labor isn't cheap.

sorry man, but sometimes you have to bite the bullet even if it doesn't benefit you.

 

look at the things i have things i have dealt with and seen dealing w/ this whole thing and TELL me you wouldn't be the same?????

if the engine that was in my car didnt have a hole in the block i would have just rebuilt it... but that core is no good so i found a good enough deal and its hard enough to find evo engines in the first place so i bought yours after everything wasn finalized it wasn't as described im tryign to work w/ you and save you the hassles .... and myself for that matter of taking the engine out scraping all those gaskets, oil cooler, timing components, fluids and man hours (labor isnt free i value my time) and the headaches of this whole deal and at beast i have a core block... at this point i would rather get the money back tear into the internals check the crank and bearings piston wall depth and go from there at the least it needs bearings, possible crank turn or new crank new rods maybe needs honed or bored if the piston walls are messed up then new pistons to match...

what im telling you to make me the buyer happier since you were the one at fault sellign a item not as described ... refund the money keep the trunk and i will get it rebuilt and as the buyer will then be happy with my purchase and if something else goes wrong its on me not you refund the money and ill be happy and you wont hear from me again and i will rebuild it.

 

ok you bought new parts for the motor right? send me all the reciept with the new parts. i will purchase them from you. and i give u some money also for the labor u put to install it.. the reason for this is i don't want the real scammer to be happy with the 2g of mine. so i give give u a full refund of 700 and shipping to ship the motor back. and give me a price on the new part with reciept also labor price. so it wont be a complete waste of time for u. also send u wing back.

 

damn your're not messing around, that ^^^ seems pretty fair to me

 

Dude, your missing the point i think. At the end of the day we still need a motor for this car. We can put new rod and main bearings in the motor with only pulling the oil pan(hopefully if the crank looks ok). But we do want some money back to rebuild it, im sure we can come to an agreement on a dollar amount. As far as the trunk goes i dont know how its damaged cause it wasnt when it left here, and if it got to you that way then we need to call up ups and file a claim. And if i remember correctly you wanted the trunk as part of the deal, and now you have no use for it? Like i have stated post after post, i just want some money back to fix this knocking noise. Tell ya what i figure i have 800 hard cash in this motor (700 paypal and 100 to ship the trunk) hit me back with 500.00, keep the trunk cause you can sell it for more than you can ship it for, (and i dont know about you but shipping a cf trunk scares the hell out of me) and we all can go our seperate ways. If we end up putting new bearings in and something else pops...well thats on us..

 

seems fair to me.. we get to keep motor (we needed one like yesterday) and $500 to rebuild this block.. if it ends up costing more than $500 or something else goes bad then thats on us and you have nothing to worry about because you made it right by us already..

 

This sounds absolutely FAIR. What more can you ask from this guy?? He is willing to refund and to pay for the shipping, parts and even labor!! Like the other guy said eariler, as a seller, he would ask for his own product shipped back for inspection himself first before he would refund. How can you keep asking for your money back while holding onto the product?

At the end, this is just the fact and risk about buying stuff online

 

well i guess the buyer is going to wait until he wins the paypal claim and get his money back so he wont send my motor back.. o well.. lol.. i guess we will never no the truth.. motor could be perfectly fine maybe thats y he wants to keep the motor??? and he get his money back.. it was a good game lol.. now i'm going be knownin as a scammer from now on can't clear my name huh..