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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sc00by
Damn I wish these held power like the gtr dsg.
They hold almost twice the torque as stock, with stock clutches. What's wrong with that?

Originally Posted by Supraboy1
Cobs dyno doesn't read high the chart is posted under several placed in this forum.

Yes it does, do more research. There are already three people in this thread that posted after you, verifying it. Posting your chart doesn't show us anything.

Originally Posted by chkmgnt59
If you're going to Kan's dyno, it will read lower than cobbs. Theirs is a typical mustang, it'll read 13% below a DJ. Cobb's is 6% below. So you'll drop power for sure.
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I can agree with Jake's (chkmgnt59) 6% claim too, that sounds about right from my findings. My IX read about 15% higher DD --> DJ, and about 10% higher DD --> M (and 6% lower DJ --> M).
Originally Posted by chkmgnt59
(6% below DJ), and this has been verified by many. I'm going to do a back-to-back of my car on cobb then on a local DJ just to prove this point.

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Old Aug 11, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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So, on Cobb's dyno, at what point will he begin having issues even with the 600hp discs?

I calculate his 424wtq is approximately 390wtq on a DynoDynamics and/or a low-reading Mustang similar to Buschur's or CBRD's (which seem to read in the ballpark of a DynoDynamics unless I'm crazy, which is possible). This is assuming a 9% difference which is what I calculated with my IX. *these numbers could of course we way off, I'm just sitting here at work doing ricer-math*

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Old Aug 18, 2011 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gunzo
don't think you should hit on bryan .. I'd ask the same question too .. because you have something thats akin to the elixir of youth ..

I just took a look at the charts .. you can't hit that level ..

the gearbox will shut you down even before you hit that level .. and it has nothing to do with engine .. put it this way .. output numbers on dynos are never correct for the SSTs .. .. this is the way the gearbox and engine interface is designed .. you can't run away from this .. no matter how you choose ..

Bryan knows the SST more than any of you guys .. (other than me )
I'm like totally confused now.... so how much power is the car really making?
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:17 PM
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I like how this digressed into a discussion about dynos.
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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I ran on another Mustang dyno this past Sunday. It displayed 2.3% less power than Cobb's.
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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I bet they are both wrong
Old Aug 18, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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They're dynos, there is no right or wrong.
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Supraboy1
I ran on another Mustang dyno this past Sunday. It displayed 2.3% less power than Cobb's.
run whatever you like .. when you hit 400tq .. the gearbox shuts you down .. how you get there and what is measured is non of my business ..

you can measure 400wtq .. or measure 4000wtq .. not my F'ing problem ..

That is the way the gearbox is designed .. and best part is .. the gearbox receives info from the engine regarding specific torque figures .. so 50% of the time .. you're fighting the ECU to get power .. the other 50% the gearbox ..

you will always be on the losing end ..

you can't see what I or bryan can .. so you don't know what goes on behind ..
Heck even bryan can't see a gearbox torque reduction request .. but its there ..

wanna make big power .. get a manual .. want to get a fast MR .. don't be greedy on power ..

the earlier this sinks in .. the earlier you get a very fast car that even the GTR's have trouble catching you ..
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 05:49 AM
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No offense, but I'm going to pretty much disregard everything you just said since Cobb, Kozmic, and SSP don't seem to be having any issues with 400+ WTQ and Tom's car doesn't seem to be fighting for power nor a problem holding it with the 600 discs. To each their own though, you can have your opinions and I can have mine, that's the great part about the internet

Anyways, back on topic before this thread gets completely cleaned up.

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Old Aug 19, 2011 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Kracka
No offense, but I'm going to pretty much disregard everything you just said since Cobb, Kozmic, and SSP don't seem to be having any issues with 400+ WTQ and Tom's car doesn't seem to be fighting for power nor a problem holding it with the 600 discs. To each their own though, you can have your opinions and I can have mine, that's the great part about the internet

Anyways, back on topic before this thread gets completely cleaned up.
you're welcome to discount anything I said .. Kozmic and whoever else will know what I'm talking about .. no offense taken ..

I already know most people can't accept the truth ..

Not helped by the fact that what I posted here is only the tip of the iceberg compared what I know or have done .. SSP is not even close

Only thing is I don't own any shop and everything I tested was on my own expense

to you or the rest .. I'm probably just another 11year old trying to fool his way past adults

To add one more bit in case you think I'm going off tangent .. SST doesn't like high rpms .. yet everyone says its ok to pull to 8000rpms because its been done and nothing's wrong ..

just put 2 and 2 when you see a thread somewhere later regarding SSTs disintegrating and remember me
Old Aug 19, 2011 | 07:28 AM
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To avoid never-ending bickering I'm going to close this down, everyone has made their point and info has been posted from all sides. Readers are free to take it any way they please.
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