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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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they don't need a top dollar driver. they just need me.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Dear Mitsu

i need $6 Million so i can run in WC in 08.

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Greg @ GSC Motorsports Inc

I'm game can someone forward that to the powers that be over there at mitsu.

Cory im game for a couple of events next year. We didnt just build this thing for the evo shoot out and taking it to Wendy's ;-)
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Cory im game for a couple of events next year. We didnt just build this thing for the evo shoot out and taking it to Wendy's ;-)
Aight, than we can stay in the south east and do Sebring and Road Atlanta. A world challenge podium would look good on the GSC resume along with the wendy's drive through speed record.

In all seriousness it would be nice if SCCA would come out with a VTS for the evo so we could build a car with future WC races in mind.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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sounds good to me but you and i both know our wendy's is slowest in the south east. just today i went threw to get a frosty. and she looked at me all funky when i asked for a spoon so i could eat the damn thing.
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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well atleast yall dont hafta drive threw drivethrews in REVERSE!!
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by rsr14

In all seriousness it would be nice if SCCA would come out with a VTS for the evo so we could build a car with future WC races in mind.
that's not how it works, read my previous posts. SCCA does not know what a competitive EVO is until one is run. There is no magic formula used, you just build it run it then they look at your data and adjust your car (up or down), end of story.

So you just build it however you think it needs to be built, test it till it turns the times, then go to a race, then they'll write a draft VTS for the car based on your car for all who follow to use as a template.

To Greg at GSC we can do it for much less than 6mil and the money is not coming from any time soon. Cars and parts yes but no cash...

keep thinking guys!
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 04:59 AM
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that's not how it works, read my previous posts. SCCA does not know what a competitive EVO is until one is run. There is no magic formula used, you just build it run it then they look at your data and adjust your car (up or down), end of story.

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I have read your previous posts.

I would think basing a VTS on one team and one driver would not be a good thing to do. The team could sandbag like crazy in the build and testing process and simply cruise in the races and place as high as they needed to not get penalized. So until someone else with a better driver built the same car to the same VTS and the cars potential was discovered the team that started it all would have a huge advantage. Basically it would be a team telling SCCA what car they wanted to run and have them build a set of rules for it. Kind of like what PTG did, they lobby for all sorts of things for their cars until they are easily capable of winning in amatuer hands.

I am sure SCCA has an idea of what a competetive evo would be and they take a teams testing into consideration for the new VTS. If not then GSC has just done 3 months worth of testing and I want 335 tires, 2850 lbs, 650awhp, 15in front rotors, carbon widebody, dual plane wing, 3in sectioned off the roof, and of course a cup holder for the wendy's frosty please.

So let me rephrase my statement: I would like to see a VTS that SCCA comes up with (with the help of people like mueller) so a team that may be considering doing a few races next year (GSC) could make sure they dont build a car that would have to be drastically changed to be allowed.

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Old Aug 6, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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The Porsches are 2800lbs and 440 (crank) hp. It does not matter, it is in SCCA's interest to make the EVO competitive they want as many makes and models in their "World Challenge" series as possible. It just takes the money and expertise to build a reliable car and the budget to run it (the hard part). If we could make a Volvo competitive the an EVO is a walk in the park It's just a shame that has no $$$ or we'd already be running competitively
would you be competitive for one race like the audi? cuz the evo is useless without turbo...
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 07:01 AM
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Correct me if I am wrong but the money involved to field an Evo in the GARRA Cup GS class would be far less right? I believe the car is currently eligible for the GS class. GT in the Rolex series does not allow turbos right? So GARRA Cup GS would be the logical fit.

A GSC/Autometrics Evo in GS driven by Leh and Cory would be pretty bad ***.

The Subaru that Kris Skavnes runs in ST, what is the Mitsu equivalent? I guess the Lancer Ralliart. With the current Lancer being replaced next year by the Lancer/Caliber chassis maybe the new Lancer would be a ST contender.

Mitsu does plan an AWD version and an AWD turbo Ralliart version of the standard Lancer next generation. Maybe that would be an idea.

But the ultimate goal would be an Evo.

Leh, Cory, you guys know more, could an Evo run in GS and be competitive?
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dmeluzio22
Correct me if I am wrong but the money involved to field an Evo in the GARRA Cup GS class would be far less right? I believe the car is currently eligible for the GS class. GT in the Rolex series does not allow turbos right? So GARRA Cup GS would be the logical fit.

A GSC/Autometrics Evo in GS driven by Leh and Cory would be pretty bad ***.

The Subaru that Kris Skavnes runs in ST, what is the Mitsu equivalent? I guess the Lancer Ralliart. With the current Lancer being replaced next year by the Lancer/Caliber chassis maybe the new Lancer would be a ST contender.

Mitsu does plan an AWD version and an AWD turbo Ralliart version of the standard Lancer next generation. Maybe that would be an idea.

But the ultimate goal would be an Evo.

Leh, Cory, you guys know more, could an Evo run in GS and be competitive?
The car for sure would be cheaper to run in GS that WC. We have done allot of work for the Marcus 997 GS cars and another teams 997 so I think we have a pretty good idea what a competetive evo would be. For starters it would have 330whp, 9X17in wheels with 275 tires all around, 2900 lbs, the evo 9 no lift aero kit, and a good set of motons. I am pretty sure this would get the car close and also would be a reasonable set of specs from grand-am.

I have heard that Mitsu's support of a pro effort might include a car and parts which for a grand-am cup team would be huge! If we had that to start I believe a cup program could be a very good possibility.

GSC/Autometrics/York Mitsubishi GS Evo # 14..................I Like it

Greg, time to make some calls to Mitsubishi North America
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rsr14
The car for sure would be cheaper to run in GS that WC. We have done allot of work for the Marcus 997 GS cars and another teams 997 so I think we have a pretty good idea what a competetive evo would be. For starters it would have 330whp, 9X17in wheels with 275 tires all around, 2900 lbs, the evo 9 no lift aero kit, and a good set of motons. I am pretty sure this would get the car close and also would be a reasonable set of specs from grand-am.

I have heard that Mitsu's support of a pro effort might include a car and parts which for a grand-am cup team would be huge! If we had that to start I believe a cup program could be a very good possibility.

GSC/Autometrics/York Mitsubishi GS Evo # 14..................I Like it

Greg, time to make some calls to Mitsubishi North America
I didnt know they allowed turbo cars in Grand am cup GS? It does seem like a good fit.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 06:03 AM
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Hey man, if you guys would do it if I could help get the car I'm in. I can make some calls and talk to some people. I know Mitsu is in expense control mode in North America but you never know, crazier things have happened.

We (York Mitsubishi) were involved with the old Jerry Alaimo SSB North East Region SCCA Champiosnhip Mirage Turbo in the 80's. Its been too long, time to rekindle the flame.

Heck, has there been a real Mitsu Road Racing effort since Dave Wolin? Hmmm Wolin. I still remember how awesome his team was at the Nelson Ledges 24 Hours. The one year he had the 3000GT VR4 and the Eclipse GSX Ralliart USA cars there! They ran against the Consulier, and I think Freddy Bakers supercharged CRX.

Seriously though, if there is interest I can see what we can do.

-Derek


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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rsr14
The car for sure would be cheaper to run in GS that WC. We have done allot of work for the Marcus 997 GS cars and another teams 997 so I think we have a pretty good idea what a competetive evo would be. For starters it would have 330whp, 9X17in wheels with 275 tires all around, 2900 lbs, the evo 9 no lift aero kit, and a good set of motons. I am pretty sure this would get the car close and also would be a reasonable set of specs from grand-am.

I have heard that Mitsu's support of a pro effort might include a car and parts which for a grand-am cup team would be huge! If we had that to start I believe a cup program could be a very good possibility.

GSC/Autometrics/York Mitsubishi GS Evo # 14..................I Like it

Greg, time to make some calls to Mitsubishi North America
they would likely want to campaign a an evoX so don't get all hasty. no point in promoting the coming-an-end 9
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Good point but the X will not be here for quite awhile. As a production car. Then a race prepared version with no testing history or tuning parts available would make an Evo X racecar even further off.

The X won't be here till 2008 but you are right being right in the middle would be tough.
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by trinydex
they would likely want to campaign a an evoX so don't get all hasty. no point in promoting the coming-an-end 9
True, but we could get in 2 years in the evo 9 which would be a good head start on running the x's.
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