Evo in Speed World Challenge
Originally Posted by kingkyle
I didnt know they allowed turbo cars in Grand am cup GS? It does seem like a good fit.
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The well proven (IX) would help give better results quicker. Instead of having to develop an all new car (X). Then by the time the X comes around the program would be a bit more advanced and ready to deal with the newer car.
Originally Posted by dmeluzio22
Hey man, if you guys would do it if I could help get the car I'm in. I can make some calls and talk to some people. I know Mitsu is in expense control mode in North America but you never know, crazier things have happened.
We (York Mitsubishi) were involved with the old Jerry Alaimo SSB North East Region SCCA Champiosnhip Mirage Turbo in the 80's. Its been too long, time to rekindle the flame.
Heck, has there been a real Mitsu Road Racing effort since Dave Wolin? Hmmm Wolin. I still remember how awesome his team was at the Nelson Ledges 24 Hours. The one year he had the 3000GT VR4 and the Eclipse GSX Ralliart USA cars there! They ran against the Consulier, and I think Freddy Bakers supercharged CRX.
Seriously though, if there is interest I can see what we can do.
-Derek
We (York Mitsubishi) were involved with the old Jerry Alaimo SSB North East Region SCCA Champiosnhip Mirage Turbo in the 80's. Its been too long, time to rekindle the flame.
Heck, has there been a real Mitsu Road Racing effort since Dave Wolin? Hmmm Wolin. I still remember how awesome his team was at the Nelson Ledges 24 Hours. The one year he had the 3000GT VR4 and the Eclipse GSX Ralliart USA cars there! They ran against the Consulier, and I think Freddy Bakers supercharged CRX.
Seriously though, if there is interest I can see what we can do.
-Derek
Originally Posted by rsr14
I have read your previous posts.
I would think basing a VTS on one team and one driver would not be a good thing to do. The team could sandbag like crazy in the build and testing process and simply cruise in the races and place as high as they needed to not get penalized. So until someone else with a better driver built the same car to the same VTS and the cars potential was discovered the team that started it all would have a huge advantage. Basically it would be a team telling SCCA what car they wanted to run and have them build a set of rules for it. Kind of like what PTG did, they lobby for all sorts of things for their cars until they are easily capable of winning in amatuer hands.
I am sure SCCA has an idea of what a competetive evo would be and they take a teams testing into consideration for the new VTS. If not then GSC has just done 3 months worth of testing and I want 335 tires, 2850 lbs, 650awhp, 15in front rotors, carbon widebody, dual plane wing, 3in sectioned off the roof, and of course a cup holder for the wendy's frosty please.
So let me rephrase my statement: I would like to see a VTS that SCCA comes up with (with the help of people like mueller) so a team that may be considering doing a few races next year (GSC) could make sure they dont build a car that would have to be drastically changed to be allowed.
I would think basing a VTS on one team and one driver would not be a good thing to do. The team could sandbag like crazy in the build and testing process and simply cruise in the races and place as high as they needed to not get penalized. So until someone else with a better driver built the same car to the same VTS and the cars potential was discovered the team that started it all would have a huge advantage. Basically it would be a team telling SCCA what car they wanted to run and have them build a set of rules for it. Kind of like what PTG did, they lobby for all sorts of things for their cars until they are easily capable of winning in amatuer hands.
I am sure SCCA has an idea of what a competetive evo would be and they take a teams testing into consideration for the new VTS. If not then GSC has just done 3 months worth of testing and I want 335 tires, 2850 lbs, 650awhp, 15in front rotors, carbon widebody, dual plane wing, 3in sectioned off the roof, and of course a cup holder for the wendy's frosty please.
So let me rephrase my statement: I would like to see a VTS that SCCA comes up with (with the help of people like mueller) so a team that may be considering doing a few races next year (GSC) could make sure they dont build a car that would have to be drastically changed to be allowed.
You can do it yourway if you want but you will spend a crap load more money. We had to build two complete sets of Volvo's till they were competitive, you are talking about a huge can of worms following your route (been there done that). What I suggested is the cheapest and quickest way to get you competitively running in GT. You may not like it but I believe it to be true FWIW
Also on your specs you will get 305 tires, maybe down to 2700lbs and whatever hp can be obtained on the mandated 98 octane.
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Originally Posted by scorke
Both the AMS and Mueller evo are far over modified for that series....
Scorke
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don't forget, you can't touch gearsets until the ruling comitting allows it...Irish Mike's had to break several trannies to be allowed stronger gears, then diffs started breaking...
Last edited by homemade wrx; Aug 23, 2006 at 01:07 PM.
Ask Sony for a Playstation sponsorship. They might bite seeing as how they are pointed to as one of the main reasons the Evo is here in the first place instead of just in our pipe dreams...
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Originally Posted by dmeluzio22
Correct me if I am wrong but the money involved to field an Evo in the GARRA Cup GS class would be far less right? I believe the car is currently eligible for the GS class. GT in the Rolex series does not allow turbos right? So GARRA Cup GS would be the logical fit.
The focus for the company is selling cars, and Evo sales do not generate the cashflow to fund a proper racing effort. With the Evo 9 being history soon, the focus will need to shift to developing Mitsu's new product offerings, as there is no point spending money that the company does not have to market a model that does not exist in production anymore.
to get off their ***** and send a pre-production Evo X to RRE pronto for race development 
Originally Posted by trinydex
so does chrono know why they other japanese cars got hit so hard with penalties?
they brought knives to a gun fight plain and simple...
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Originally Posted by chronohunter
What penalties? They (both teams) simply showed up with not enough car. Is that difficult to discern? Do you feel that both of the efforts were well funded and thoroughly tested (to the point of competitiveness) before they were debuted?
they brought knives to a gun fight plain and simple...
they brought knives to a gun fight plain and simple...
Originally Posted by trinydex
iunno i guess i just heard the rabble about limited boost or limited horsepower.... suppose it's easy to see they were underprepared
BTW I hope I'm not coming across as a Internet know it all, I went through all this with the Volvo team and continue too. check this link... http://www.atspeedmotorsports.com/pr...ses2.asp?ID=33