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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
no, the boost was not changed at all. the car the map was designed for is actually an STU evo. i want to keep it on the up and up for the autocross.
Then you're probably good. A lot of folks, especially at the regional level, miss this one.

and not struts, you're right. shocks correct? it feels like it adds stiffness in the rear, i can feel a bit of a difference when i take it off. maybe it is just mental?
The fronts are MacPherson Struts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McPherson_strut

When top mounting point moves around, it moves the orientation of the wheel with it. Strut bars and other such braces, serve to keep the geometry of the suspension close to what you set it at.

Rears are multilink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilink

The orientation of the coil and shock don't affect alignment of the wheel.

the cusco brace is the one i was looking at. that would kind of suck if it wasn't class legal because of the extra longitudinal bracing. it's probably not a big deal, because they always seem to remain tight, but it makes me a little nervous only having half the original length of those bolts threaded in.
I would post a picture along with the mounting points. I really don't think it is legal, but I may not be interpreting the rules correctly.

cheers

d

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by donour
Rears are multilink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilink

The orientation of the coil and shock don't affect alignment of the wheel.

i guess i am just using the wrong nomenclature. i've always seen it refered to as a "rear strut tower brace". i never even thought about there being no struts in the rear. haha.

the 4 pnt brace would attatch in place of these two individual braces:

http://oligarchy.biz/pics/evo%20ix/crossmember.jpg

and the brace would look similar to this:

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
i guess i am just using the wrong nomenclature. i've always seen it refered to as a "rear strut tower brace". i never even thought about there being no struts in the rear. haha.

the 4 pnt brace would attatch in place of these two individual braces:

http://oligarchy.biz/pics/evo%20ix/crossmember.jpg

and the brace would look similar to this:

The H-Brace that you have pictured is not legal.


I do have a question for those of you in the know though. Turbo manifolds? Who uses them? What brand? The two Borla's I have ordered (6 months ago) are STILL not here. I'm in a state of panic at this point. If you have a vendor you like or reccommend I'll buy them there. Tired of waiting on mine from my vendor.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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From what I'm told, and you can take this for what it's worth, the best bang for the buck is to port the stock manifold and O2 housing. I have yet to do it because that's down on the list of priorities but unless you're going to a full race header, that would be the next best thing.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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I've got the ebay o2 housing on there already. My concern is not nessecairly power gains but weight. Owning the MR means we have the heaviest car in the group. Tubular Manifold should drop some weight off the front of the car.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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I would probably look at the Invidia or DC Sports header then. I'd try and stay away from the 304 stainless steel headers.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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Thanks Russ
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MondoBongo
i guess i am just using the wrong nomenclature. i've always seen it refered to as a "rear strut tower brace". i never even thought about there being no struts in the rear. haha.
Well it's not just that. Since they're not struts, a bar attached to the mounting points doesn't really do much of anything...make sense?

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:20 PM
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yeah, makes sense.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Mr Dieman,

Full-Race! You must have seen mine at Nat's, right?

Dave
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dieman
I do have a question for those of you in the know though. Turbo manifolds? Who uses them? What brand? The two Borla's I have ordered (6 months ago) are STILL not here. I'm in a state of panic at this point. If you have a vendor you like or reccommend I'll buy them there. Tired of waiting on mine from my vendor.
I have no idea who your vendor is, but it's not their fault on the Borla header...it's Borlas. We've been waiting longer than six months for them.

Originally Posted by Dieman
I've got the ebay o2 housing on there already. My concern is not nessecairly power gains but weight. Owning the MR means we have the heaviest car in the group. Tubular Manifold should drop some weight off the front of the car.
You'll probably wait a while on the DC Sports, though if you find one in stock it's the old style, as the new version--that has been in a redesign state for at least six months--is due out any month now and is supposed to have slightly thicker walled tubes to help prevent cracking.

The Invida can be gotten, though my notes say it "requires an aftermarket radiator" (if anyone can prove/dis-prove that please let me know).

There's also the GT Spec header, though it is stainless steel also.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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The Full-Race manifold is a quality piece. But if you're looking to save weight you'll be disappointed, it's the same weight as the stock manifold+heatshield. They both weighed 13.4lbs on my scale.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Silencer
Mr Dieman,

Full-Race! You must have seen mine at Nat's, right?

Dave

Yes I did and I liked it alot. I know you do too. I was definatly looking at that. You have anyone I should/could talk to about it?

JSC, Ya I'm not blaming my vendor(I probbaly didn't word that right). I know it's Borla's fault, that's just all they carry though.

spaf, thanks for the info. I didn't know that about the weight. I obvisouly hadn't pulled mine off yet.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by McCall
Now you guys have me very curious. I thought my numbers were just about the norm. Of course every dyno, even if they are the same brand, is different so it's hard to have a true comparison.

I'm going to a meet tonight and my tuner will be there. I'll see if he can give me a screen capture of my boost/timing/knock for that dyno run and I'll try a post a picture. That run was in done in 4th so if there was any creep I'm sure it will be easy to see.
Meet with my tuner again tonight and we logged a run in 3rd gear that shows the boost/AF and took a screen shot of it. I'm sure someone will try and find a way to poke holes in this but the data shows the maximum boost I'm running is the stock 18.8which then tapers down to 15.4 or so at redline. No boost creep what so ever. The graph you see is from a bogging 2k rpm up to my 8k redline.

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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245/45 Question

Obviously I have too much time on my hands and I am trying to mess with tire size.

Tire Rack has 245/45/17 RE01 on sale for $148, which is $17 cheaper than 245/40/17s and Bridgestone $100 rebates ends this month. Other than money and top speed which 45 has advantage of 40s, does anybody use 45's and lower the front end more to get better corner weighing? Since lower the front end too much impacting steering, I am wondering if anyone here use the tire size to increase the ride height and lower the front end to achieve better weight balance without hurting steering. Or am I just stupid by asking this question. Thanks.
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