These are all "IMO" since I'm not an engineer.

I didn't have antilag capabilities on my car when it was tuned - wasn't sure if you guys were playing with that on your engine or not.

I was on a 10:1 2.3L stroker.

TR30r is lighter, though I'd bet any SS housing 28r-35r will also be lighter than the stock IX turbo.

The TR30r seems to hold a bit better up top, making an additional 25hp/ftlbs by 6000rpm, but comes up slower than the turbo you guys had. I'm assuming that this doens't matter much as normally teams would be running antilag to combat this issue.

I think the main benefit of the TR30r is that it has high zoot internals that will live under the extreme stress from antilag.

Dave

 

So that sheet from AMS that Aaron found wasn't yours then it seems? Not that I know what the boys at English are doing behind closed doors but I wanna say nay on them working with ALS... Have you recieved any indication that AEM is working on the issue for you Dave?

 

That was my dyno sheet. I didn't keep the turbo on the car and went with a HTA35r b/c the powerband just didn't feel any good in Denver without antilag going. Seemed like all of the extra lag you'd expect with the elevation change, but it still choked out early. The 35r is much more natural to drive.

No idea what AEM is up to, but with the V2 coming out, I wasn't holding up any hope of them fixing the bug in the V1 ECU. I have two of them for sale and have a MoTeC on the Evo now.

Dave

 

Dave,

The dyno sheet from our car was definitely not holding boost out the top but the power drop was Midget error with the timing map. It makes better now, especially that I spiked it higher. I am not sure I am going to disclose that one yet though I am going to repeat the test on my car to see what gains in response I can get with the MIVEC. We'll be using the stock ECU antilag with some tricks as well.

Aaron

 

it is not uncommon for manufacturers to map the engines without using the turbo at all, but rather a large electrically driven source of air at flow and pressure of their choice..

 

Ours wouldn't hold boost up top either...pesky restrictor.

If you have any interest in the JDM antilag bits, I've got them sitting on a shelf. With the MoTeC the common way to do it is just using a throttle jacking solenoid.

Dave

 

Hmmm...In fact I might be. I am going to do an "Aaron version" and do a throttle kicker without a throttle kicker. I am thinking that the air injection stuff (mainly the pipes to the manifold) will come in handy on another car.

PM price?

Thanks

Aaron

 

John, What is the "stock Ecu Antilag" ?

 

A little more on that later. I have the software figured out for USDM cars and have hardware ready to test but I just havent had time to take it out on the street and test it.

 

Next question I guess would be "why?" Since there are many better ECU options for competition cars that have well developed ALS capabilities.

 

I believe Aaron is working on it as a budget minded option. Also when you have helped make the stock ecu do everything that people said could not be done... why not figure out one more thing!

 

Short version- Why not?

Long version- Autronic doesnt have knock control, ViPec does but in order to get knock control you buy two boards, MOTEC is spendy, AEM doesnt seem able to get it right. Like Billy said, it wasnt too long ago that the stock ECU "couldnt support more than 375whp" because it wasnt accurate. Then it was you'll never see a 8 second or low 9 second car run one. There are cars making 1053 and 905whp on the stock ECU, I personally make 794. I have stock drivability, speed density, map switching, anything I need, so why not add one more feature. I can do what true Rally antilag does anyway, -20*+ timing/fuel=BangBang.

I like challenges is also another acceptable answer. It will feel good to say we beat cars with a stock computer when this comes to fruition.

 

This is why I <3 my Aaron!!!

 

Yes it does now, but it's an add on board. It does individual cylinder knock monitoring.
there's details for it->
http://www.mrm-racing.se/index.php?pageid=knocke

 

just bumping the best thread on here lol


erm ive bought a tr30r and im not sure which car it was off any idears





also I cant find any v-band kits to buy for this turbo please help