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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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after a long classroom discussion with other drivers and a few instructors last weekend, i learned a little of why ohlins matter.

out of a large group of vastly different cars i was the only one that could eat up curbs. many people were being told to stay off the curbs, but the group leader/very experienced instructor drove a few laps behind me with his high end data/vid system. when we reviewed it it was very apparent how much better my car soaked up bumps than any everyone else, to the point that i was making time on exit over every other car because of it.
any concern of the extra heat/wear/tear?
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
after a long classroom discussion with other drivers and a few instructors last weekend, i learned a little of why ohlins matter.

out of a large group of vastly different cars i was the only one that could eat up curbs. many people were being told to stay off the curbs, but the group leader/very experienced instructor drove a few laps behind me with his high end data/vid system. when we reviewed it it was very apparent how much better my car soaked up bumps than any everyone else, to the point that i was making time on exit over every other car because of it.
Funny, I was talking to another evo owner who's on Ohlins and he was saying pretty much the same thing; the big difference between Ohlins and "the others" is damping over curbs.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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any concern of the extra heat/wear/tear?
i have ZERO question that they arent built to handle it.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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i have ZERO question that they arent built to handle it.
nice! Robi is rebuilding/valving my V3s this winter.. but i still REALLY want Ohlins LOL
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by heel2toe
Yes the PSRS moves the strut/ wheel forward on the bottom and then the caster plate gains caster by moving the strut backwards up top.
if it gains caster by moving the strut at the top, then the angle has to be more acute and the ride height will decrease somewhat right? otherwise if it just moves the wheel back it doesn't increase caster it just shortens the wheelbase.

anyway i'm sure that's what happens since the plate does add caster, so it shouldn't move the wheel back TOO much right? like we chatted about, not sure that psrs is legal in STU, but i am definitely considering those plates...
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 08:04 PM
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Anyone ever go from ASTs (4100s/5000s) to Ohlin DFVs? Will be looking to replace my current coilovers with a proper setup and trying to see which setup would be best suited for me. Considering even mustering up and saving for JRZ RS but not sure if it's worth while for me.
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Old Oct 30, 2014 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by heel2toe
When you maxed your plates up top did you have any issues with the shock body hitting the inner fender well?
Nope, plenty of clearance in there.

Originally Posted by BrendanS
Anyone ever go from ASTs (4100s/5000s) to Ohlin DFVs? Will be looking to replace my current coilovers with a proper setup and trying to see which setup would be best suited for me. Considering even mustering up and saving for JRZ RS but not sure if it's worth while for me.
I've run both among other setups. I wont type up everything again but Im sure a crafty person could find some of my comments on them.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BrendanS
Anyone ever go from ASTs (4100s/5000s) to Ohlin DFVs? Will be looking to replace my current coilovers with a proper setup and trying to see which setup would be best suited for me. Considering even mustering up and saving for JRZ RS but not sure if it's worth while for me.
Are you on ast's now?
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
after a long classroom discussion with other drivers and a few instructors last weekend, i learned a little of why ohlins matter.

out of a large group of vastly different cars i was the only one that could eat up curbs. many people were being told to stay off the curbs, but the group leader/very experienced instructor drove a few laps behind me with his high end data/vid system. when we reviewed it it was very apparent how much better my car soaked up bumps than any everyone else, to the point that i was making time on exit over every other car because of it.
Love me some curbs.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by killerpenguin21
after a long classroom discussion with other drivers and a few instructors last weekend, i learned a little of why ohlins matter.

out of a large group of vastly different cars i was the only one that could eat up curbs. many people were being told to stay off the curbs, but the group leader/very experienced instructor drove a few laps behind me with his high end data/vid system. when we reviewed it it was very apparent how much better my car soaked up bumps than any everyone else, to the point that i was making time on exit over every other car because of it.
Certainly not knocking the O's because there are a beautiful & capable damper

However, my FA 510's outfitted w/the radial bearing kit & Swift springs (10K/12K) do the same thing over the curbs. All due to the blow off feature in the valve (Digressive Valving)

My point, you dont have to buy the name brand to get the digressive valve benefit

Ill run the curbs with any of you boys

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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Solenoid
Certainly not knocking the O's because there are a beautiful & capable damper

However, my FA 510's outfitted w/the radial bearing kit & Swift springs (10K/12K) do the same thing over the curbs. All due to the blow off feature in the valve (Digressive Valving)

My point, you dont have to buy the name brand to get the digressive valve benefit

Ill run the curbs with any of you boys
challenge excepted


although i dont have an Ohlins. But you said any, so lets do something little rougher then Track but still tarmac.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BrendanS
Anyone ever go from ASTs (4100s/5000s) to Ohlin DFVs? Will be looking to replace my current coilovers with a proper setup and trying to see which setup would be best suited for me. Considering even mustering up and saving for JRZ RS but not sure if it's worth while for me.
i did from the AST 5300 to the Reiger. The Reiger is actually a cheating compere to AST 5300.
Usually Ohlins and Reiger very close in any competition. so i would say it should make a hell of a lot difference if you get one of the high end ohlins.
I think the mid range once wouldn't or would do a very small difference, but you will still feel it. And would make you a lot more confident on track.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 05:43 PM
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Guys stalking so much about the FA coils , i would def. test one to see the hype behind it. And if that is all true i would get one for my DD.
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
challenge excepted


although i dont have an Ohlins. But you said any, so lets do something little rougher then Track but still tarmac.
I should have clarified. All of you except those crazy, steely eyed rally drivers
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Old Oct 31, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Solenoid
I should have clarified. All of you except those crazy, steely eyed rally drivers
that was flattering.
But all seriousness, the difference between mid level and high end coils are huge.
But even then better coilovers are shine when the roads are not perect. Close to perfect circumstances like track the difference are less. It does exists but not that obvious.

For an example, to understand what am i saying here ( i know its hard , i have a bad english) try to run a hill climb event. You will immediately notice the difference.
You should run back to back on a bit more rougher road the Ohlins and yours. You will see.

Being good in coilover world is not really about you can or not curb. The difference is , the confidence in your driving what a coilover can give you.

When you drive a good real good coilover you feel invincible Anyway if you never drove on Ohlins which was set up good. You should. Ohlins is not just a name.
However....

so i am really interested now in this FA. I hope they are better then AMR or his friends. I tried many and many failed. BIG time. Rough road can be a killer even if that is tarmac in racing speed on public road.

I tried once on entry level good named coils this is what happened:



and so as others so called racing and in pair with a big names coils ...
Now i cant imagine a same with Ohlins. I have all the confidence in Ohlins.

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