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Crowdsourced NASA TT2 Evo Build
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Crowdsourced NASA TT2 Evo Build
Ok, after a week of contemplating and receiving advice, encouragement, and support from around the land, I've decided to start anew with a purpose-built Evo project. The original WarrEvo was a classic and lived a hard but fruitful life while being a daily driver and wannabe racecar for quite a while.
I'm going to start this venture like many before me, but I'd like to get your opinions and input along the way. Let's see what we can put together. There will be many differing opinions, and no one will always be right, but it should be fun trying. Would you like to participate?
I want to talk through all aspects of the build over time, but I'm going to start at the very beginning, which is the starting chassis. I'm not sure if I'll try to find an empty Evo 8/9 shell or if I'll get a regular, working Evo 8/9 to start with so that I have 2 full drivetrains (and many other parts) for swaps, rebuilds, and replacement parts. To be in the right range for TT2, I'll want to be around 375whp on a Mustang Dyno (SAE Corrected) at ~3200 lbs and using 275-width tires (hoping Hoosier makes the A7 in a 275/18).
My first inclination is to start with an 06 IX MR as the base, but to get one that is in full working order (but not modified hopefully). Or, I may consider an already-built chassis like Scorke's (too bad I missed out on that one).
I'm going to start this venture like many before me, but I'd like to get your opinions and input along the way. Let's see what we can put together. There will be many differing opinions, and no one will always be right, but it should be fun trying. Would you like to participate?
I want to talk through all aspects of the build over time, but I'm going to start at the very beginning, which is the starting chassis. I'm not sure if I'll try to find an empty Evo 8/9 shell or if I'll get a regular, working Evo 8/9 to start with so that I have 2 full drivetrains (and many other parts) for swaps, rebuilds, and replacement parts. To be in the right range for TT2, I'll want to be around 375whp on a Mustang Dyno (SAE Corrected) at ~3200 lbs and using 275-width tires (hoping Hoosier makes the A7 in a 275/18).
My first inclination is to start with an 06 IX MR as the base, but to get one that is in full working order (but not modified hopefully). Or, I may consider an already-built chassis like Scorke's (too bad I missed out on that one).
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Yes, good point. I have a Shep-built IX 5spd from the wrecked MR that I plan to use if we determine it is not damaged from the impact, and I have it for the same reason you just gave - my original 6spd lost 4th while on track. I'm less concerned with the drivetrain of the new foundation car as I am with the items that are very difficult to change (e.g. aluminum roof).
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Yes, good point. I have a Shep-built IX 5spd from the wrecked MR that I plan to use if we determine it is not damaged from the impact, and I have it for the same reason you just gave - my original 6spd lost 4th while on track. I'm less concerned with the drivetrain of the new foundation car as I am with the items that are very difficult to change (e.g. aluminum roof).
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I'd go for an 05 RS or GSR.
You get the stronger ACD transfercase, 5-speed and you have a non-mivec head which there are more parts readily available for.
Evo IX SE had a 6 speed.
You get the stronger ACD transfercase, 5-speed and you have a non-mivec head which there are more parts readily available for.
Evo IX SE had a 6 speed.
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Having built mine from a brand new SE, and many other versions in the past I'll put my cents in.
1. Don't destroy another 9 SE. Arguably the best evo made and holds it's value way too well to turn into a race car. I miss my street version and the wife won't let me buy another one lol.
2. I'd build a shell into a IX race car. Firstly if it's already a shell then your that much closer to blasting and seam welding which we all wish we woulda done and a select few have. Secondly if it's a shell you can put whatever matching drive train/ECU in there you want. CT9A is CT9A when it comes to that. Thirdly with a fresh shell you can start to move things over THEN figure out what you really need, there for you don't have to "ditch" anything and bother selling it in the first place. Win.
3. There's already too many OEM part outs, and not too many people want "used" OEM anymore other then engine/drivetrain thus parting out yet another 8 or 9 isn't going to guarantee you any funds.
1. Don't destroy another 9 SE. Arguably the best evo made and holds it's value way too well to turn into a race car. I miss my street version and the wife won't let me buy another one lol.
2. I'd build a shell into a IX race car. Firstly if it's already a shell then your that much closer to blasting and seam welding which we all wish we woulda done and a select few have. Secondly if it's a shell you can put whatever matching drive train/ECU in there you want. CT9A is CT9A when it comes to that. Thirdly with a fresh shell you can start to move things over THEN figure out what you really need, there for you don't have to "ditch" anything and bother selling it in the first place. Win.
3. There's already too many OEM part outs, and not too many people want "used" OEM anymore other then engine/drivetrain thus parting out yet another 8 or 9 isn't going to guarantee you any funds.
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Having built mine from a brand new SE, and many other versions in the past I'll put my cents in.
1. Don't destroy another 9 SE. Arguably the best evo made and holds it's value way too well to turn into a race car. I miss my street version and the wife won't let me buy another one lol.
1. Don't destroy another 9 SE. Arguably the best evo made and holds it's value way too well to turn into a race car. I miss my street version and the wife won't let me buy another one lol.
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Having built a EVO race car i suggest buying one and not building it. You will be way better off. I am not sure that many people realize what it cost to build a good cage/ seam weld a car and do all the other stuff we all dream of that will actually make it a reliable race car. And then honestly, you will still realize that the EVO is not a great race car. Buy a vette, or even a used Porsche cup car!
Just my opinion. Having just sold my car, if i do it again i will go a much different route.
Just my opinion. Having just sold my car, if i do it again i will go a much different route.
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i bought an s2000 to compensate...now i am even more stuck in the middle
i have built what is amounting to a very good, consistent and reliable track day car IMHO, and if i could drive it would probably have been competitive in TT...until friggin joeshowed up and started dominating the east coast. i suppose to drill the few required holes for a rollbar and 6 point is not the end of the world but i would never spend the money to fully cage and race this car. the past year or two seem have proven that for NASA TT stock motor/turbo is best, so you can spend money elsewhere at least.
i dunno...i wrestle with this **** DAILY, its sickening.
i have built what is amounting to a very good, consistent and reliable track day car IMHO, and if i could drive it would probably have been competitive in TT...until friggin joeshowed up and started dominating the east coast. i suppose to drill the few required holes for a rollbar and 6 point is not the end of the world but i would never spend the money to fully cage and race this car. the past year or two seem have proven that for NASA TT stock motor/turbo is best, so you can spend money elsewhere at least.
i dunno...i wrestle with this **** DAILY, its sickening.
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i bought an s2000 to compensate...now i am even more stuck in the middle
i have built what is amounting to a very good, consistent and reliable track day car IMHO, and if i could drive it would probably have been competitive in TT...until friggin joeshowed up and started dominating the east coast. i suppose to drill the few required holes for a rollbar and 6 point is not the end of the world but i would never spend the money to fully cage and race this car. the past year or two seem have proven that for NASA TT stock motor/turbo is best, so you can spend money elsewhere at least.
i dunno...i wrestle with this **** DAILY, its sickening.
i have built what is amounting to a very good, consistent and reliable track day car IMHO, and if i could drive it would probably have been competitive in TT...until friggin joeshowed up and started dominating the east coast. i suppose to drill the few required holes for a rollbar and 6 point is not the end of the world but i would never spend the money to fully cage and race this car. the past year or two seem have proven that for NASA TT stock motor/turbo is best, so you can spend money elsewhere at least.
i dunno...i wrestle with this **** DAILY, its sickening.