Of course then they'll complain they have to run smaller than stock tires.


In a perfect world there would be per-class rules too but that would get messy as hell. Take STP for example. ST is suppose to have basic street bolt ons yet the pony cars cant to gears. That's like step 2 on a Muscle car. And by keeping gears out of that class, it serves to do exactly what they try to avoid by making the Camaro and Mustang course dependent (Mustang barely does 60, Camaro does like ~80)


Theres a reason Ive been in SM for 12 years now...

 

right, I agree it wouldn't happen - and very rare they ever take rules back.

Saw a proposal about the diffs thing even for STF in part to standardize ST rules. That's not what makes classes popular. Good fits for good cars is what does it. In that sense I totally agree then - STP should have gearing allowed (but not other ST classes). STA class for boost buggies! "STA" should have common AWD/boost buggy mods.

Just IMO..

 

I missed that one...where did you see that?

Not really! I have been on the thick side of this stick since early DSM days! For a year or two we where able to update/backdate turbo, so 2G guys ran 14B making a bit more power. But, right after two of us showed at Nationals (1999 I think it was) with those turbos, they killed that proposal and made turbos to be updated only as part of the engine.

Then, they allowed modifications with engine mounts that would give 2G cars ability to actually use 1G engines, but soon enough they killed that one too.

 

check the "move from fs to ds" lol

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1466452782

 

I see now what you meant by that. I thought they are pushed out of the class. It is good for them to get some competition!!

 

yeaaa competition! just like how the evos/stis did in STU

 

Don't mind me if I am not hurt by this...

SCCA guys often use WRX as a giveaway they have for all of the AWD cars as a place where they are top dogs. Once this is gone there will be nothing there for them to use aside from we had a class with AWD at the top once, but it didn't work well...

 

isn't that why you're considering leaving BS?

 

I like to know my options for when the time comes!

I do believe (at least 90%) that X is too heavy for either class, but at the same time, I am not able to squeeze all out of it yet. So, since I am not at my top level, it makes no difference being trophy feeder in BS or STU.

 

You seem to at least care if you're in a competitive car for the class, why not get a car more suited for a class you want to be in? The X will never be the car to have though I think it could be a good ASP car with 315s.

 

Back in days I got really close to the jacket (if that turbo didn't break the shaft) and that is still my goal. At this time I am unable to dedicate enough seat time to get there, so I am just coasting in whatever I have. I would still love to give it a try in my car when I am 100%, but that will have to wait (and more likely, never happen with this model). I did have couple of events locally that I got pretty close to the top dogs in my region, so part of me still think there might be a slight chance that everything is going to line up (everyone hits at least one cone on each of their fast runs, for example) and it will happen!

In the mean time, I am trying to enjoy what I have with car that I have. It would be nice if I could have another one for this purpose, but not part of 1% yet!

 

If you can swing an Evo X SE - basically a 36k (?) car new - you can swing a not-that-exciting daily driver + a dedicated autox car.

 

Car was actually only $34.4k and things were different 6 years ago!!

I probably wasn't clear in previous post, but it is not the car that can't do it at this time, but rather me who is not at top of the game. Doing this every 3 weeks or so gets you to wonder for first few runs what are you doing there and you get some familiarity on last run or two. No car preparation will fix that, so instead, I am just having fun with what I have.

 

Sounds maybe like you're currently lacking focus, which is understandable (to me anyways) given that you're racing a car that can't be competitive at the pointy\focused end of the stick(?)

 

I am not sure if I would call it focus (unless you mean RS one), but rather I don't feel it the way it should be felt/I felt it before...

All this aside, any other thoughts on how much would BS EVO X benefit from all of the STU mods?

Since I am thinking a bit more about this lately, one major problem this car has is soft springs and this is one of the things that can be fixed! Camber can be also dialed in much better than it is on BS car.

It can lose some weight too and from what I can see around 150 lb (seats, battery, and perhaps some other things I am not aware at this time) to bring it in 3300 lb range. Still porky, but better than BS car for sure!

Car has 275s right now, but they are probably rounded up a bit and not as stretched as 265 could be on 10.5" rims or so, for example. Those should work mach better for sure, so that would be additional help.

Car can have more power from fuel and timing alone, plus more flowing exhaust. Not sure if hi-flow cat can be used, which would help too. Either way, extra power should drop times down as well.

Car has double adjustable shocks, and third adjustment can be added, so compression can be properly adjusted for a change. Currently, high speed adjuster is almost not useful, and a bit of low speed that car needs, can not be easily added (aside from rebuild). Looks like another plus on the list!

Finally, car can be dropped down some, so that should help a bit too.

At the end, all of this looks like at least 1.5 second worth if not even more form where the car is now.

How sane is this rumbling?