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Soooooo, I posted in the sandbox about running an Evo X in D street and I was immediately directed to STU the car. So, now I'm here and I'm a "soon to be owner" of an Evo X that's completely stock. What would be the EZ button suspension, tune, wheels to get me to 80-90% of STU prep (without immediately spending $5k+ on some baller shocks)?
A little background on me: I've been driving a (formerly) STR S2000 for the last 8-ish years, that's now in XSA because I put a big wing on it, and I run in the same region as Jake with the STU Fiata. I've been to nats once in an EP Civic (in 2018) and did decently well.
Soooooo, I posted in the sandbox about running an Evo X in D street and I was immediately directed to STU the car. So, now I'm here and I'm a "soon to be owner" of an Evo X that's completely stock. What would be the EZ button suspension, tune, wheels to get me to 80-90% of STU prep (without immediately spending $5k+ on some baller shocks)?
A little background on me: I've been driving a (formerly) STR S2000 for the last 8-ish years, that's now in XSA because I put a big wing on it, and I run in the same region as Jake with the STU Fiata. I've been to nats once in an EP Civic (in 2018) and did decently well.
You definitely don't need baller shocks to compete. Just go with the Shaftworks 1 ways for around $2,000 to your door and if you decide you need more - they can always be upgraded to 2 or 3 ways down the road.
Throw some 18x11's, 295 A052s, get your suspension and alignment dialed in and have fun. Add power as time/money allows.
Thanks for the insight! I know, it's bench racing, but it is interesting to view data points throughout the year. Man, if it was that cold out, you'd think the evo would have an advantage vs it's STU counterparts on days like that!
I can't recall exactly who I was talking to, but the CTR weighs around 3050 stock - which is definitely lighter to begin with than the Evo 8/9 and obviously 10. I'd assume they would get into the 27XX-28XX range with full prep? I think I'm in the high 29XX range currently, but haven't weighed it since the last round of minor mods.
I swear I also read a thread about a STU type build for the Type R that was pushing upwards of 400whp. I believe I mentioned this before, but I supposedly there was one on the NE coast that ran a 315mm all the way around on 11" wheels in STU/SP trim. Uncertain if that is a myth or if it's the truth. Maybe it was the same car that was competing at that event? Although I found on RRX the car that was competing at this event was actually running a 295/255 combo,
More power, more tire, less weight than the evo. I wonder how "well" that FWD would put down 400ish whp though...?
Buddy is commenting in here and mentioned this, figured I'd add context -In DC, STR ran first heat in miserable conditions compared to STU. We're still off pace vs the rest (but how much of that is driver noise, I dunno). AJ's car was on 295s front, CTR is definitely spicy, with better tune and ability to launch its a serious threat - 315s fit. Car definitely puts it down on corner exit. CTR, Fiata, Evo all love cold, and yoks tolerate it better than most. Heavy car helps run 1 not be a complete throw away though.
Width wise, fiata on the fun STU tires is 71.5, I have to swap to street tires to load on a 70" wide trailer. I'd still take the cayman, someone just needs to put actual effort into actually building one.
Elevation changes, 3 different surfaces and extremely hot and humid weather summed up the day on Sunday. I struggled with cones all day - since it was pretty darn tight in areas. It was even tighter during course walk, but they opened some of it up, which was nice!
Dallas told me to attack the cones - so I did. Literally! haha...
In the video - this was supposedly my only clean run. I was excited at the end of the run because I KNEW I coned my first two runs. However in the preliminary results they have now marked this one with a cone. I'm confused as they have a dedicated course worker at the end of your run - to let you know if you had any cones or not. I also had a half second faster run - which would have put in me in the top PAX spot by a good margin, but it wasn't meant to be! At least I know my pace is there - just need to tidy it up slightly! They will be reviewing this run prior to finalizing their results. Without their live timing working - it made things difficult. If I would have known my first 3 runs were coned - I would have taken it easier on my last 3. Live and learn.
Car felt extremely hooked up for the most part. Seemed like it had a lot of grip. I was impressed with the RE71RS in all honesty. They seemed to have loads of grip even on the first run - without any sort of heat cycle. I did notice they pick up a lot more sand that gets embedded - unlike the A052 if that matters to anyone. Overall, I think they truly are a formidable option. It's hard to truly say if they are better than the Nankangs or Yokes - but I would absolutely choose these over the Falken's if I had the choice. I wish I had more to say, but it's truly had to compare when I'm on a completely different surface than Lincoln. I MAY be able to compare more in 2 weeks at Lincoln.
there is an update that will go to the BOD at the end of the year that attempts to clarify the multi link camber allowance. check it out in the June 22 fastrack (https://www.scca.com/downloads/62525...track/download) letter 30465.
it is unfortunately not super straight forward to identify which lateral arms are 'camber' and which ones are 'toe' in some multilink designs. in some years of STI for example the two lower lateral links in the rear are in the same plane and both of them will change camber and toe at the same time, you could legally change either one I think (personal, non-official opinion). To some extent the toe link on the evo changes camber (and the camber link changes toe) so you could try to put together some justification for changing the toe arms but the intention of the rule is to not allow toe link changes so even if you did survive a protest the rules would likely be changed to close whatever loophole was being exploited. If you have any suggestions for how to make the rules more clear I would like to hear it, this is an allowance that is tough to state clearly in black and white.
And to be clear I don't think changing the toe arm on the rear of an evo is legal (again, personal non-official opinion).
I've always read that to mean either the rear camber arm (affects toe) can be replaced or the toe arm can be replaced on the Evo multilink. Meaning you can only do one of them, pick one.
Buddy is commenting in here and mentioned this, figured I'd add context -In DC, STR ran first heat in miserable conditions compared to STU. We're still off pace vs the rest (but how much of that is driver noise, I dunno). AJ's car was on 295s front, CTR is definitely spicy, with better tune and ability to launch its a serious threat - 315s fit. Car definitely puts it down on corner exit. CTR, Fiata, Evo all love cold, and yoks tolerate it better than most. Heavy car helps run 1 not be a complete throw away though.
Width wise, fiata on the fun STU tires is 71.5, I have to swap to street tires to load on a 70" wide trailer. I'd still take the cayman, someone just needs to put actual effort into actually building one.
That make sense about the DC times - thanks for sharing.
As I've said before, I truly believe with the right driver - the Evo, Sti, Fiata, Z cars, M cars, P car, Type- R could take the class. Hell, I'm probably missing some other chassis that I'm unaware of.
Either way - looking forward to the battle in September!
Curious what everyone with an tune on their Evo8/9 has set their boost and rev limit to? I want to finally get my Evo tuned for boost this year and would like to get some insight from the rest of you guys.
Curious what everyone with an tune on their Evo8/9 has set their boost and rev limit to? I want to finally get my Evo tuned for boost this year and would like to get some insight from the rest of you guys.
I couldn't even tell you how much boost I'm running. I'd estimate somewhere around 24psi? I'll actually have to watch the gauge when I WOT it next time.
Rev limit gets raised to around 7800ish - 8000ish from what I recall.
From: Why do they always call the Evo the Dark Side?
Originally Posted by DaWorstPlaya
Curious what everyone with an tune on their Evo8/9 has set their boost and rev limit to? I want to finally get my Evo tuned for boost this year and would like to get some insight from the rest of you guys.
+1 for I dunno what my max boost is. Whatever it is, I'm probably not seeing it in 2nd gear.
For rev limit, I'm at 7800. I asked CBRD about this a while ago and he said "8000 rpm is doable- are you on stock valve springs?" - I don't know whether the answer to that question affects the answer as he never got back to me about that.
I bumped my standing rev limiter a bit at Toledo in .. 2014? so that it wouldn't bog once there was a bunch of rubber down i.e. Sunday at a Pro. But I forget what that is set to also I want to say 5500 but not sure. I also tried to line up slightly offset from the huge rubber tracks.
At least I know my pace is there - just need to tidy it up slightly! They will be reviewing this run prior to finalizing their results. Without their live timing working - it made things difficult. If I would have known my first 3 runs were coned - I would have taken it easier on my last 3. Live and learn.
I want to say 5500 but not sure. I also tried to line up slightly offset from the huge rubber tracks.