Lookin a little late in that last pic..

Alwayswiththelateturnin

 

that's my special line son. i don't hit the second apex in the bus stop, i go wide and get on gas much earlier. wait to see my vids

 

Ok, I need video son, cause I agree with Pete looking at the picture. In your defense, I am not seeing the "bus stop" to see why you are turning in late ... for all the autocrossers he is backsiding a cone so to speak..

 

in the last picture, the apex on driver side is the second apex. i use a lot of fist apex and don't use second apex. making the turn wide so i can make the exit more straight and get on gas earlier.

this is the bus stop

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XJbYCOVvYc

 

Bus stop = chicago box

 

Chicago box = chicane

I never knew that was the bus stop. I just thought it was a chicane

 

what ever it is, i don't know the terminology cause i'm not an autox *****. all i know is it's called the slow-in fast-out mad crazy fast line

 

Does look similar to a chicago box.

Dan's comment is funny because I still find myself not knowing what number and names to the turns at Lightning and Thunderbolt are...and I've been to those two many times. LOL

 

bus stop & chicane = same thing

 

Ok, I just watched the first 2 minutes of the video Thai. There were 10 cars that went through and all were on that corner. It seems that you are adding to much distance there approx 3'-4'. I bet at speeds your traveling you added 150' to that turn. Everyone in video was tight on entry and exit of bus stop.
Am I missing something? You are on gas earlier maybe, but you are adding a ton of distance to turn.

 

This is your problem, you lack autocross skillz to know how to properly take that corner.
Puts flame suit on... have at it

 

I'm not quite clear on what exactly the jersey devil and octopus are at tbolt.

There aren't many other names for turns at njmp. The two about are the only ones I know of for tbolt. They also call turn 13 "pruet's corner" or something. I guess Scott pruet had an issue there.

For lightning there is just the ski jump (turn 5) and the lightbulb and I don't know what turn number that is.

WGI seems to have names for a lot more: bus stop, boot, interloop.

 

Mike, that video also wasn't of street cars either.

I can't wait watch the daytona prototypes at tbolt this Sunday. They barley use any track on corner exit. Those cars just stick to the track and handle like ****'s

 

I was gonna do that Trackdaze event at T-bolt, but I think I'd rather go back to the Glen. I should be signing up this week for Sept.

 

^ holla!

For me the bus stop @ WGI is exactly like a chicago box at an autox, meaning I enter on the far right and exit as wide as I can on the right. It might not be the right/ideal line but I was able to catch a lot of people in that section of the track. Watch my vid to see what I'm talking about.

autox REALLY helps you break elements down to simple turns and realize what you need to focus on instead of wasting effort trying to place the car somewhere that doesn't gain you anything.