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If I hear any more of this de-tuning crap in here I will crap a squirell.. Grow a pair ladies. I am borderline thinking of taking my car to the track just to prove a point. heavy car and little motor is what you got yourself into when you bought the car, not happy buy a heartless bmw or something with a pushrod. I'll be back I am going to de-tune my car to become a faster driver and get back to basics and focus on lines and breaking points while riding with instructors for the next few years in an attampt to nguyen an hpde while I time my laps in traffic while taking some of the most boring videos ever seen and cleaning dirt off with formula x19 after running less then stock boost. just kidding but not really yolo
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing (which is basically just a non-moving piece of metal) can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
Last edited by AlwaysinBoost; Oct 22, 2012 at 10:46 AM.
please come to a DE and see if you can use 1/2 the power you're currently making. Don't give me this 'borderline thinking' crap. Come out and put your car on track to show all us how its done. Just don't request me as your instructor...
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
Pete, 'Turn up the boost, bro' was who I was specifically thinking of when I wrote that, but I guess you could use Honda-boy as an example, too.
Chu, only time will tell... I hope for your case it lasts as long or longer than the stocker did.
Chu, only time will tell... I hope for your case it lasts as long or longer than the stocker did.
Funny you mention o2 housing. My car had stock mani and o2 when I bought it. All the parts that would take a beating on track were stock. It really was a perfect track setup. Then I turned it in to a raging autox monster, lol. That's how I roll :conehug:
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That's exactly who comes to mind when I think of a big hp built motor. He had no problems with his stock motor and the few events I've seen him at he's had big problems.
His boy Jeremy never seemed to be able to get a full day out of his Evo either after the huge build.
I spent a bit of time chatting with Porsche and lotus owners on Friday and despite knowing less than I do about the basics of how a car works they all had reliable cars because they never modified them.
All I'm saying is that I'm learning that OEM is the best and if it ain't a corolla, it sucks.
I would but I would not be able to use said power waiting for other people to point me by
. And first of all I certainly would have the apropriate state of tune for extended loading conditions which would be about 350hp on our dyno.
I am sure there are plenty of normal people able to harness the power of a stock evo, however they may require practice in other aspects, an evo is about the easist car to drive fast there is, within reason.
#1 Then they picked the wrong part or installed it incorrectly.
(after number one) Thats why I brought up heavy car little motor
#2 I agree with that
As for nick I am not sure of his setup but I would imagine under 400hp would kind of suck in that thing on anything bigger then a parking lot..Isn't his car auto? If so thats a total fail right there.
See I don't disagree with you totally but it gets to the point we might as well be driving fiats in this bish...
. And first of all I certainly would have the apropriate state of tune for extended loading conditions which would be about 350hp on our dyno.I am sure there are plenty of normal people able to harness the power of a stock evo, however they may require practice in other aspects, an evo is about the easist car to drive fast there is, within reason.
#1 Then they picked the wrong part or installed it incorrectly.
(after number one) Thats why I brought up heavy car little motor
#2 I agree with that
As for nick I am not sure of his setup but I would imagine under 400hp would kind of suck in that thing on anything bigger then a parking lot..Isn't his car auto? If so thats a total fail right there.
See I don't disagree with you totally but it gets to the point we might as well be driving fiats in this bish...
please come to a DE and see if you can use 1/2 the power you're currently making. Don't give me this 'borderline thinking' crap. Come out and put your car on track to show all us how its done. Just don't request me as your instructor...
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing (which is basically just a non-moving piece of metal) can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing (which is basically just a non-moving piece of metal) can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
I would but I would not be able to use said power waiting for other people to point me by. And first of all I certainly would have the apropriate state of tune for extended loading conditions which would be about 350hp on our dyno.
I am sure there are plenty of normal people able to harness the power of a stock evo, however they may require practice in other aspects, an evo is about the easist car to drive fast there is, within reason.
#1 Then they picked the wrong part or installed it incorrectly.
(after number one) Thats why I brought up heavy car little motor
#2 I agree with that
As for nick I am not sure of his setup but I would imagine under 400hp would kind of suck in that thing on anything bigger then a parking lot..Isn't his car auto? If so thats a total fail right there.
See I don't disagree with you totally but it gets to the point we might as well be driving fiats in this bish...
. And first of all I certainly would have the apropriate state of tune for extended loading conditions which would be about 350hp on our dyno.I am sure there are plenty of normal people able to harness the power of a stock evo, however they may require practice in other aspects, an evo is about the easist car to drive fast there is, within reason.
#1 Then they picked the wrong part or installed it incorrectly.
(after number one) Thats why I brought up heavy car little motor
#2 I agree with that
As for nick I am not sure of his setup but I would imagine under 400hp would kind of suck in that thing on anything bigger then a parking lot..Isn't his car auto? If so thats a total fail right there.
See I don't disagree with you totally but it gets to the point we might as well be driving fiats in this bish...
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Low Lyfe or no life playa!! Come on my block at stock ride height and see what happens....
please come to a DE and see if you can use 1/2 the power you're currently making. Don't give me this 'borderline thinking' crap. Come out and put your car on track to show all us how its done. Just don't request me as your instructor...
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing (which is basically just a non-moving piece of metal) can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.
There is a reason why most people (who have actually spent time on the track) are suggesting to stay stock power for a while. It isn't cause we don't enjoy our cars, in fact we probably enjoy/use our cars more than most, its because we know that #1 stock is THE most reliable & #2 a stock EVO has a lot of potential, more than anyone short of a pro can utilize.
with regard to #1 - anyone with a modded EVO who has done track time, that means ME, Pete G., Dan K., Chu, Thai, Fineberg, ect can attest to how much it sucks when your aftermarket part fails and instead of being out on track you're in the pits fixing your ****. There is a reason why your EVO came with a 100k mile warranty, its because a fu(king team of engineers designed the car to last that long with all types of variables in mind. When you start to modify the car you are effecting the reliability, most of the time its in a way you can't begin to imagine, but driving hard on the track will expose ALL those weak points for you. Something as simple as an aftermarket o2 housing (which is basically just a non-moving piece of metal) can totally ruin your day on the track.
If you like modding your car then thats fine, but don't expect it to be very reliable when you try to push it more than a few laps at full tilt. IMO what is the point of having all that power if you can't use it for a full 30 minute session... There are a lot of guys we track with who have every mod under the sun and in the end they spend more time on the sidelines and/or running 1 lap and braking than they actually do using the cars they put all that time/money into. True story.
#2 all you need to be faster than almost anyone (short of supercars, but even some of them, too) on track in an EVO is seat time and a good set of tires and brake pads. Thats it! With those things and a stock EVO you can hang with almost anyone.
You wanted to turn the boost up on this thread...
BTW Nick, aka sleeperstyle is signed up for his first DE with NASA this weekend. You know he's an avid drag race guy (like I used to be) so on Monday ask him what he thinks about adding power or anything to his car after this weekend and see what his response is.