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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 06:54 PM
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^ oh, i thought it was at Glen. must have been Lime Rock then
Old Nov 1, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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I believe it was Lime Rock. It was that right hander after that down hill portion. I sure Tom can clarify if he wants.
Old Nov 1, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
Stop being defensive! Those were two category of springs:

1) performance

2) crappy/for looks.

I had the later.
Where do you get your facts?
Old Nov 1, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
i'm sure there is a thread out there that either states the spring rate at the ground or you can find the formula to compute it but it's much easier to just understand that characteristic and just do what people with experience have proven to themselves.

i over thought it when i was shopping for coilovers. if you're on any sort of springs now (good performance or crappy/for looks set), something like 10k/12k is going to be very dramatic of a difference.
yeah thats what i figured, im curious tho.

the gt worx springs are 290 lbs/in front and 330 rear which converts to approx 5k front just shy of 6k rear. so basically id be looking at doubling the rates. bilsteins arent exactly the most confortable shock on crappy roads...i has a set of konis i liked better on another car
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:21 AM
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
I believe it was Lime Rock. It was that right hander after that down hill portion. I sure Tom can clarify if he wants.
yep, lime rock off the downhill
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by chu
Where do you get your facts?
I'm not sure what response you're looking for but here's my thinking.

Brands such as:

Gtworx/swift seemed to be designed with performance in mind.

Eibach/Tein/H&R were designed primarily for looks (drop etc).

I'm only saying that after having been on street and track with eibachs and realizing that stock springs were significantly better.
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
I'm not sure what response you're looking for but here's my thinking.

Brands such as:

Gtworx/swift seemed to be designed with performance in mind.

Eibach/Tein/H&R were designed primarily for looks (drop etc).

I'm only saying that after having been on street and track with eibachs and realizing that stock springs were significantly better.
I'm not looking for some technical explaination. But I'll add my 2 cents...

I think they're all designed with mixed of performance and looks in mind. Some just do it better than others. Mind you, Eibachs and H&R are some of the biggest manufacturers of suspension systems in the world. Ohlins, and numerous other companies, use Eibach and H&R for support and engineering. Suspension is just a subbjective topic, and what's good for one person isn't necessarily good for another. On the Evo, the design of the suspension happens to favor "correct" roll center and motion ratio rather than COG. Further more, the stock shocks, even Bilsteins, do not have a lot of travel, so lowering regardless of rates ultimately hurt the handling. Its not easy for manufacturers to balance all that when car enthusiast wants the best of both worlds, and still within the confines of the stock shock valving. These aren't facts, just one newb's opinion.

Also, carrying 50-60 gallons of fuel in your car on the way to the track doesn't help the car handle well on the street.

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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dek0026
I'm not sure what response you're looking for but here's my thinking.

Brands such as:

Gtworx/swift seemed to be designed with performance in mind.

Eibach/Tein/H&R were designed primarily for looks (drop etc).

I'm only saying that after having been on street and track with eibachs and realizing that stock springs were significantly better.
Eibach is such a large company that they can afford to make different line of springs from motorsports to hardparking. I think the same can be said for Tein and H&R. If you want their good Eibach stuff, get ready to spend some money. Moton, Ohlins, etc on the other hand only make top notch stuff. We all have different preferences in the way the car handles. Thai likes stiff because that's how he likes it up the butt as well.

*waits for at least my car is running come back*

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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 04:59 AM
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^ chu trying to be PRO at suspension?
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by chu's brother
Eibach is such a large company that they can afford to make different line of springs from motorsports to hardparking. I think the same can be said for Tein and H&R. If you want their good Eibach stuff, get ready to spend some money. Moton, Ohlins, etc on the other hand only make top notch stuff. We all have different preferences in the way the car handles. Thai likes stiff because that's how he likes it up the butt as well.
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:02 AM
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why chau always talking about my butt?
you know how i know you ghey?

if you gots ghey tendency, i fell bad for you son. 99 problems..
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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all my cars in GT5 has Eibach spring upgrade. just saying
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:10 AM
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Happy Friday. First day at the new job lol. They finally restored powaaaaa
Old Nov 2, 2012 | 05:11 AM
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I bought a jig from Nelson to make my own springs.



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