PCD: 2013-2014 Till We Break It Edition
I was thinking the same thing. When we were doing cages for off- roading we would mount the seats directly to the cage. I figured you couldn't do it in a car because of the seat height, but g-forces in an accident might be too huge if something doesn't "give". I don't think the auto power is a bad cage, it's basic, and they sell all kinds of upgrades and extra bars to turn it into whatever you want. Personally I like the idea of NASCAR style bars because of the way they spread the load in a side impact plus that extra little bit of room between the bars and your hip is comforting.
In other news: I decided to calculate my MPG in the corolla the last two tanks of gas this week and it was 35/36 mpg. That's a lot higher than I expected. What do hybrid realistically get 40-45 mpg?
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
you can see it better here, it comes with boxed mounts that get welded to the floor which the cage then bolts to. ton of UK guys on register are running it. company makes weld in WRC style cage kits too.

im curious what the definitive purpose of a floor bar is. i would think the upper structure of the cage would keep the car from buckling on side impact...
i also like the way this one has bars that run from the main hoop to the rear legs and between the rear legs which the autopower does not.
this is two evo wrecks now that the seat has ripped out of the floor pan (the evo dynamics pikes peak car did the same)

im curious what the definitive purpose of a floor bar is. i would think the upper structure of the cage would keep the car from buckling on side impact...
i also like the way this one has bars that run from the main hoop to the rear legs and between the rear legs which the autopower does not.
this is two evo wrecks now that the seat has ripped out of the floor pan (the evo dynamics pikes peak car did the same)
Door bars: Keep other cars out of the cockpit. Either an "X" or NASCAR bars are required on driver side (many people run NASCAR bars on driver side and an X on passenger). A modified/bowed X-brace is really a good way to go on driver's side. I wouldn't do any racing without an X on both sides (at minimum).
Rear stays/down tube cross bracing: You are better off with an X between the rear stays than that one horizontal brace (that looks about useless). See Marc's or my M3 roll bar as reference.
Rear stay/down tube to main hoop: Some classes do not allow for additional bracing here...it's a good idea if allowed.
Main hoop diagonal: One diagonal running from behind driver's head to the passenger floor is a must.
Main hoop horizontal brace/Harness bar: needs to be at correct height so harnesses are at the right angle while going over shoulders.
Oh, and: Read the rule book for whatever sanctioning body you are planning to run with for cage requirements/allowances. Then, read the other sanctioning bodies' rule books to make sure you don't do anything that will prevent you from running with them if you decide to later on. Make sure materials are sufficient for your vehicle and meet the rules.
Finally: Weld the tubes together. Don't bolt cage pieces to each other. It's one thing to bolt a cage to the car, but when you start bolting the main to the front stays you are just being stupid.
Last edited by oneday.js; May 17, 2013 at 06:33 AM.
In other news: I decided to calculate my MPG in the corolla the last two tanks of gas this week and it was 35/36 mpg. That's a lot higher than I expected. What do hybrid realistically get 40-45 mpg?
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
We are registering three cars for the August 9-10-11 Lemons race at Thunderbolt. We will likely have a couple of seats open in our Integra for arrive and drivers. Obviously we are still working out details and who from the core team is participating, but if you are interested in signing up, please email me directly oneday dot js at g mail.
I don't have a set schedule anymore. I do whatever body part that no one else is doing at the gym, so I don't have to wait for weights or machines. I fill in the rest of the week based on how I'm feeling, and if I need rest. I also reverse my routine ever few weeks, and change the exercises for warm-up vs. go heavy. Tonight is chest; warmup and light on the barbell press, heavy on the dumbell presses. And so on.
By the way, I started my first yoga class yesterday. Its a 6 week program here at work for 35 bucks...me and 10 other ladies. Some hot, some not. BOOM.
By the way, I started my first yoga class yesterday. Its a 6 week program here at work for 35 bucks...me and 10 other ladies. Some hot, some not. BOOM.
I drove the silver Enzo to work yesterday afternoon and today.
I haven't washed it since WGI, haven't even cleaned the windshield, its fuggin nasty!
The girl I'm seeing teaches yoga a few nights a week and on the weekends.
She also keeps asking when her ride along video is going to be available for viewing, Mr. Cantor...?
Alwaysangryaznwouldnthavehadherwaitingthatlong.
I haven't washed it since WGI, haven't even cleaned the windshield, its fuggin nasty!The girl I'm seeing teaches yoga a few nights a week and on the weekends.
Alwaysangryaznwouldnthavehadherwaitingthatlong.
I don't think I was running video when I was riding your girl, I mean giving her a ride.
In other news: I decided to calculate my MPG in the corolla the last two tanks of gas this week and it was 35/36 mpg. That's a lot higher than I expected. What do hybrid realistically get 40-45 mpg?
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
I couldn't justify the cost of a hybrid for that bit of a savings in fuel. I would justify it for a diesel though.
We are registering three cars for the August 9-10-11 Lemons race at Thunderbolt. We will likely have a couple of seats open in our Integra for arrive and drivers. Obviously we are still working out details and who from the core team is participating, but if you are interested in signing up, please email me directly oneday dot js at g mail.
328d gets 44+. All of the emissions stuff on diesels suck though. Will participation in Lemons bump be to black group and give me instructor status?
Last edited by chu's brother; May 17, 2013 at 07:31 AM.
We are registering three cars for the August 9-10-11 Lemons race at Thunderbolt. We will likely have a couple of seats open in our Integra for arrive and drivers. Obviously we are still working out details and who from the core team is participating, but if you are interested in signing up, please email me directly oneday dot js at g mail.
in for pics of you in yoga pants...
I haven't driven the evo since i don't remember when. Poor thing just sits in the garage, its a shame really.
I don't think I was running video when I was riding your girl, I mean giving her a ride.
Please tell me more about your corolla and hybrids.
<- Interested. I'll holla at chu abou it.
I haven't driven the evo since i don't remember when. Poor thing just sits in the garage, its a shame really.
I don't think I was running video when I was riding your girl, I mean giving her a ride.
Please tell me more about your corolla and hybrids.
<- Interested. I'll holla at chu abou it.


