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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:20 AM
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Time to run some cornnnnnn, no mo race gas..
Don't do it! You'll have to haul so much fuel its unbelieveable and its not available everywhere you may go. If you're going to track your car, you need to switch to 93. Everyone in this thread is going to agree with me on this, its just the way it is.

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If given the option I'd go with a knobbied rally tire.


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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:24 AM
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Stay away from corn if ur going to track the car. Need too much fuel for a weekend
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Stay away from corn if ur going to track the car. Need too much fuel for a weekend
This. Ask me how I know.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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Don't do it! You'll have to haul so much fuel its unbelieveable and its not available everywhere you may go. If you're going to track your car, you need to switch to 93. Everyone in this thread is going to agree with me on this, its just the way it is.



With studs. BOOM!
I burned through about 22 gallons of race gas at NJMP. You figure you use 30-35% more with E85, so that's just about 30 gallons. As long as I show up with a full tank and bring 4-6 gas jugs, I should be fine.

At $3.29/gal for 30 gals, that's $98.70. For 22 gallons of 110 at $12/gal, that's $264. Similar power levels at basically a third of the cost? I'd rather bring a few more jugs than run less power than I am now.

If I'm wrong with the 30-35% more fuel, please correct meh!
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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Njmp in April some guy in a subie showed up with 8 or ten large fuel jugs. He had them in the trunk, in the back seat, and in the passenger seat. Jordan told him not to go to Home Depot and buy fertilizer. ATF and FBI would have swarmed in on him. Btw he drove that way from way north( I think mass.)
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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I just stopped up at Tommy's on my break and 2 cars there are getting work down before TD event. One guy with a 4door Golf, getting lowered and stainless lines (he was actually there), and the other car was an STi getting lowered as well. STi will be running in Green, Golf in Inter. I also noticed the Golf had a fresh set of Hawk HPS on the front, I told him they aren't a track pad and I don't suggest he run them on track but I think my advise fell on def ears.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FilthyEvo
I burned through about 22 gallons of race gas at NJMP. You figure you use 30-35% more with E85, so that's just about 30 gallons. As long as I show up with a full tank and bring 4-6 gas jugs, I should be fine.

At $3.29/gal for 30 gals, that's $98.70. For 22 gallons of 110 at $12/gal, that's $264. Similar power levels at basically a third of the cost? I'd rather bring a few more jugs than run less power than I am now.

If I'm wrong with the 30-35% more fuel, please correct meh!
That will work if you only ever do one day, if you do a two day event you're screwed. Besides, why do you need to run either kind of fuel? You don't need it... probably make you a better driver without all the added power.

Last year when we ran TD at Lightning Mike was using almost an entire tank a shession. Just not worth it.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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I'm probably the wrong guy to ask this because I don't practice what I preach, but, are u a good enough driver that u need the extra power on track? Not trying to be offensive but a lot of guys build power too soon and it hurts the learning curve. I don't know ur driving style ( u probably drive better than I do)
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:37 AM
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I was using better than half a tank a session on 93 with a stockish motor
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:39 AM
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^ Thats just about what I use when I'm in PRO form. I know I used a almost a half tank a couple shessions this past weekend.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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I was able to do 7 sessions with 22 gallons. Skipped my last session because I ran out of gas.

I'm not looking to make more power. I'm looking to make the same amount of power I am now, at a cheaper cost. That is the ONLY reason to switch to E85. I can't keep spending $12/gal to run 110 and I don't want to lose power on 93. I'm already used to the power my car has now. I don't want more, don't want less, just want equal power at a lesser cost.

If I can make similar power on 93, then I'd consider those options as well. It is just an idea at this point, I haven't made commitments on anything. I just figured E85 would be the way to go as far as maintaining my current power level, with room to grow down the road.

But if I'm going to burn through 80+ gallons (12 gallons a session 8x) over the weekend, then E85 can come over for dinner and have a fresh plate of my *****.

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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Ur already overpowered if that's all the fuel ur using in 7 shessions. I'm between 50-60 gallons for 8 sessions, with 4 of those shessions being "easy" ones
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Team Foren
Ur already overpowered if that's all the fuel ur using in 7 shessions. I'm between 50-60 gallons for 8 sessions, with 4 of those shessions being "easy" ones
Well, you're just an effing beast. Is that e85 or pump?

Remember, my first day was a learn the track and get solo'd day. Once I was by myself it was game on and I used way more gas in the two sessions I was out by myself, than I did the entire first day (4 sessions). I've never been to any tracks besides NJMP Thunderbolt and NHMS, but when I attend these tracks again, I expect to blow through gas.

I'm used to the power, but it just takes me the whole first day to get the line/track down - seeing as it's all new to me, plus I hit lots of traffic being a newb in a newb run group.

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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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IMO 93 is all the power you need for DE. If you want to run TT and limit the amount of seat time/laps you get then e85 is probably not that bad. But you can be very fast in TT and still stay in 93. Foren and Honda-grl are proof. Keep in mind though, your fuel consumtion is going to go WAY up compared to what it is now as you get more comfortable with the car and move to a faster run group where you aren't held up in traffic.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Please don't take offense, we're giving advice based on past experiences. U may want to do 93 with methanol/water injection. Some guys have had success with that
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