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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 12:18 AM
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Thanks for letting me borrow the tools chris! I'll get em back to you as soon as I can! It was fun hanging out too.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Ok so went from the usual suspects full exhaust, mbc 20lbs, kelford 272's, ported mani and ran 12.67 in the quarter... changed to big front mount, licp, top mounted borg warner s362 ett on 15lbs and ran 13.4. I know I need to tune more and I am maxing the injectors like 117 on Idc. no knock but no power either. I was wondering what timing I need to be running in the power. I ve heard 0 degrees to 1 tapering to 13 or 14 at the top... right now under full load it's 6 to 8 degree's. ??? Added the track log. I didn't cut out the idle before the run so you will have to scroll down the tps till you see the launch... Thanks
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:43 PM
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Sounds like you need to meet The Midget my friend.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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I've since changed the fuel...was reading into the 9's now mid 11's. Think we will put the injectors in and head to English if all else fails.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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Definitely throw some injectors in there.

The injector latency's could be messing you up if you've touched that stuff.

Get the AFRs where you want em. Then add timing in the power band till you get knock and pull back a degree and make sure it's safe there.

When are you hitting full boost? ( don't have time right now to look at the logs )
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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I glanced over it. Your timing is a bit conservative and it jumps around some. Your IDC is high but I assume you are using the standard evoscan calc for IDC which doesn't read correctly. Theoretically you can't go above 100% IDC or your injectors go static. Didn't notice it as you have a bunch of things in your evoscan log that I ignored but what was your wideband reading? I would definately get some bigger injectors and retune her to low-mid 11's. Try to up the timing to low teens up top if possible. Seems you bogged really bad off the line too...is your 2step at 6k? Doesn't look like you stayed on it very long...probably cost you a mid 12sec run although you should easily be a 11sec car properly tuned. Your boost is pretty low though at 15lbs but it should still be decently fast...what was your trap speed?
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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^ I feel a tuning guru being born.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SMOKDU
Ok so went from the usual suspects full exhaust, mbc 20lbs, kelford 272's, ported mani and ran 12.67 in the quarter... changed to big front mount, licp, top mounted borg warner s362 ett on 15lbs and ran 13.4. I know I need to tune more and I am maxing the injectors like 117 on Idc. no knock but no power either. I was wondering what timing I need to be running in the power. I ve heard 0 degrees to 1 tapering to 13 or 14 at the top... right now under full load it's 6 to 8 degree's. ??? Added the track log. I didn't cut out the idle before the run so you will have to scroll down the tps till you see the launch... Thanks
If you have a wideband do another log with that. This one tells us that its clean and you probably have some areas where you can run more timing and get some power back but without the AFR its hard to comment more.
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Old Aug 24, 2009 | 11:58 PM
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Going to make some runs but the track is closed for the Fox Hunt this weekend... Really want to make this car rip! I know tuned properly it should go low 11's. Have to get the adapter to run my wb to the cpu. Also On my personal car need to get into the 12's at least before the end of the year, I suppose it's all in my driving. Thanks for all of your help I will take all of the advice given thanks!!! Here is my weak 14.0 log from my personal car. Mods in sig. GN
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 12:37 AM
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Well to me it looks like the injector latency and scaling could use some work as your stft is all over the place. Also your timing is very, very spastic, and IMO a bit conservative... I am running 12 degrees at 7000, though I am still tuning... just don't have much time these days. Each car is different so you have to find that sweet spot that it like either timing or boost, lean or rich... I would have loved to see what the wideband was doing...
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast_Freddie
Well to me it looks like the injector latency and scaling could use some work as your stft is all over the place. Also your timing is very, very spastic, and IMO a bit conservative... I am running 12 degrees at 7000, though I am still tuning... just don't have much time these days. Each car is different so you have to find that sweet spot that it like either timing or boost, lean or rich... I would have loved to see what the wideband was doing...
Hes on stock injectors according to the sig....could be the intake or the fact the IDCs are high that is causing those trims to be out of wack.....
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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 11:25 PM
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If he is using a top mounted Borg Warner why would anyone be utilizing stock injectors... maybe he is though...
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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lookin to get 1000s and get a trip to ER. Worked 53 hours last week so hope that can bring in some extra spending cash :P

Did another little run that smokd will post up after a few adjustments he made.

I know this turbo isnt efficent until we get up in the 25-28 psi range. feels like a slug until 4500rpm and then rockets.
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Old Aug 26, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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I'd go bigger than 1000's...unless you never plan to run high boost or E85.
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