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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 07:29 PM
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Looks better...hey where are you located? Would you be interested in an OEM OZ Rally body kit? Bumpers are included, they need work, no spoiler. if shipping cost is reasonable, I can make you a really swell deal, tried to sell em' on here a while back, had one taker but I couldn't make it to the Evo/DSM shoot out that year, and we couldn't make the deal...wife wants rid of them. I was going to trick out my 03 ES for her when I bought my Ralliart...but she wanted a Mazda 5 for the kids...I'm still trying to convince her to let me turbo the Mazda 5, lol...

You should also find a proper intake, I don't know where you live but if you end up ever following another car on a dirt or dusty road, your engine will eat the dust quite literally...look and sound aside, you need to protect the engine intake better than that...sponge/foam would probably even be better...lots of small engines use them, they do the trick...but an automotive filter is best...also you're still drawing engine bay temp some what, remember you're getting mostly hot air coming through the rad, which is cooling the engine, so no matter what, a stock air box and snorkel that draws air from between the hood and upper rad support, or heat wrapped cold air intake would be best...increasing flow into a stock air box would do what a cold air intake does. It can yield good sound and performance while still protecting to motor from smaller debris...
Hey brother honestly I really appreciate what you bring to the table as for as info and your honest opinions , thanks and please do continue to share! Well yes eventually I plan to do a REAL cold air intake and one that I would be showroom quality for meet ups and such. The scotch brite pad just temporary...one of those DIY projects for when funds are low lol. I didn't have a filter and the stock box wasn't doing right it wont sit correctly and it wont stay together it was just in there losely so I needed to do something hehe. Honestly after some research I don't see the metal intakes being better than the plastic (some would argue different, I know) so what I plan to do is buy that Spectra plastic intake from Walmart or Advance Auto Parts for like $35 or so and fix that cold air system once and for all and with a nice high performance filter. But like I say all in due time. I post a link to the cheap but practical Spectra intake. As for as the bodykit no I don't think I can afford it(considering I can't afford the cheap cold air upgrade for now lol joke) but also seriously because I honestly want to keep the body all original, but thank you so much for your offer bro . But CJbarker2 might be interested as he has an 03 OZ, just saying
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 07:49 PM
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Hey, I hate to burst your bubble Justin, but with the intake being so far back under the hood, it has to go over the engine, exhaust manifold, and/or the transmission before it gets to the intake. You were much better off in terms of a cold air intake when you were running your stock box. I haven't signed on in a while, but I've been keeping tabs on the thread. If you want to have an okay filter that's that far back, you'll have to use a short ram, which pulls as much air as possible rather than just pulling air a shorter distance. Hot air is bigger than cold air. When you increase vacuum hose length, decreasing diameter proportionally retains or improves the pull toward the intake. Shorter and wider pulls more air, longer and narrower pulls better air, making it a quantity over quality kind of thing. As far as that scotch-brite bit, you got the blue. The blue scotch-brite is plastic and has bigger holes in it. Get the green or (if you can find it) the dark red/brown. The weave and material is much finer than the stringy plastic and will do a much better job of keeping your car out of the junkyard.

On a brighter note, your taillights look immaculate. Did you strip them with soda or wth sandpaper and buffing compound to restore the original sheen?
Man you can burst my bubble anytime bro haha I really owe you one, and I'm not about to forget my blessings . Wow nice information man you really know your stuff. I couldn't begin to describe and explain that lol. Well, like I said in reply to Cranswick, my $3 DIY blue ghetto short ram is temporary only. And thanks to you guy's input I'm looking forward to that showroom look and high performance genuine cold air set up this Lancer needs, again all in due time. I'm already seeing debri collect on the blue pad, that tells me it was sucking up a lot of stuff for the week or so I'd been driving it without a filter( wow scary). Thanks again for the information and taking the time to post it. Well did you want that bodykit from Cranswick bro? Like I said I honestly don't need it I'm gonna keep the ES stock body with the exception of maybe a grill modification in the future. I'll let you 2 decide about that
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 07:57 PM
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Guys there's something I want to show you , seriously, as if someone was trying to intentionally put this Lancer at a disadvantage. Ok I'll post about it soon
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 08:04 PM
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Oh! I just looked at the picture of your MAF again and realized something: there's a honeycomb structure that is supposed to be in front of the sensor. On the 501-style MAF sensors, that honeycomb is necessary to keep the meter reading properly. The air has to be flowing straight over it. Whoever had the car before you was a nimrod. If you do get to performance modifications in the future, make a replacement MAF the first thing you touch. If the air isn't flowing over the resistor properly, and even if it is, most times, the mix runs way too lean. That can spell multiple incessant misfires for your poor engine, especially under load. Just a thought.
Yes you are absolutely correct about that honeycomb bro, but you don't need me to tell you that lol. Yep a nimrod is a good description in one word/name. The previous owner/owners were not afraid to show their rebellion against all common sense. That's leading into my next project update of what I've had to do for a quick fix. I'll post about it soon guys, cheers
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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Hey brother honestly I really appreciate what you bring to the table as for as info and your honest opinions , thanks and please do continue to share! Well yes eventually I plan to do a REAL cold air intake and one that I would be showroom quality for meet ups and such. The scotch brite pad just temporary...one of those DIY projects for when funds are low lol. I didn't have a filter and the stock box wasn't doing right it wont sit correctly and it wont stay together it was just in there losely so I needed to do something hehe. Honestly after some research I don't see the metal intakes being better than the plastic (some would argue different, I know) so what I plan to do is buy that Spectra plastic intake from Walmart or Advance Auto Parts for like $35 or so and fix that cold air system once and for all and with a nice high performance filter. But like I say all in due time. I post a link to the cheap but practical Spectra intake. As for as the bodykit no I don't think I can afford it(considering I can't afford the cheap cold air upgrade for now lol joke) but also seriously because I honestly want to keep the body all original, but thank you so much for your offer bro . But CJbarker2 might be interested as he has an 03 OZ, just saying
Here's that plastic chrome Spectre intake simple cheap and effective and still stylish. If I'm not gonna be racing it should do fine for a dd/tuner. I'm not picky about metal over plastic especially if there's differing opinions but not much solid facts. I'll take the cheap plastic as the function is the same

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Spectre-Pe...&wl13=&veh=sem
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Old Jul 14, 2016 | 08:18 PM
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Hey brother honestly I really appreciate what you bring to the table as for as info and your honest opinions , thanks and please do continue to share! Well yes eventually I plan to do a REAL cold air intake and one that I would be showroom quality for meet ups and such. The scotch brite pad just temporary...one of those DIY projects for when funds are low lol. I didn't have a filter and the stock box wasn't doing right it wont sit correctly and it wont stay together it was just in there losely so I needed to do something hehe. Honestly after some research I don't see the metal intakes being better than the plastic (some would argue different, I know) so what I plan to do is buy that Spectra plastic intake from Walmart or Advance Auto Parts for like $35 or so and fix that cold air system once and for all and with a nice high performance filter. But like I say all in due time. I post a link to the cheap but practical Spectra intake. As for as the bodykit no I don't think I can afford it(considering I can't afford the cheap cold air upgrade for now lol joke) but also seriously because I honestly want to keep the body all original, but thank you so much for your offer bro . But CJbarker2 might be interested as he has an 03 OZ, just saying

OEM OZ rally air dams and side skirts on a wingless ES will look really good if you drop her about an inch or so...if he's got an OZ he's already got the skirts...i'm telling you, i'll get a shipping quote, and if you can afford the shipping, i'll basically give them to you...my wife wants them gone, cause we sold our 03 ES like 3 years ago...a little body work and some paint, would really make your ride pop, and they aren't that easy to come by...most cars in the wrecking yard either got hit in the front or back...I got these from a guy would did a full aftermarket body kit...this this them: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sa...de-skirts.html
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Hey guys ! Been so busy as I'm sure you guys have been also. Got so much going on with this Lancer I wish I had more time to update you guys and keep you informed. There's still some random projects that are pending upload for you guys so you know what's been gping ok...will try to get some pics uploaded later if get time. Just want you guys to know I'm not avoiding any replies and not abandoning this thread, just been more busy than normal . Some things I've been working on was a home made alternator tensioner adjuster, yep, I went to tighten the alternator belt because it's been squeeling like crazy at cold start up for about a minute or 2. Come to find out the tensioner adjuster there on top the alternator is missing. So the bolt at the bottom of the alternator was the only thing securing it, just crazy, lord, what will I discover next lol. Well, I got my answer soon after my custom home made tensioner adjuster was successfully installed( I got pics, will upload soon guys). Next I'm in the process of removing the head guys as the car's burning lots of white smoke. Removed the spark plugs and sure enough they covered in radiator fluids. The engine was idling and stalled by the way while it was smoking. So I removed the spark plugs, cleaned them and let them dry and cleaned the spark plug wells really good. Reinstalled the spark plugs and the car started fine but still smoking white out of the exhaust. So after research and comparing my symptoms to what the experts are saying, I figured I got a bad head gasket, as that would allow the coolant fluids to pass over and seep into the combustion system. Ok so as we speak I'm attempting DIY head gasket change. All keep you posted, I got pics of everything. I update soon guys hope you are well and have some exciting projects of your own going with some excitement and success
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Old Jul 20, 2016 | 08:24 PM
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Hey guys ! Been so busy as I'm sure you guys have been also. Got so much going on with this Lancer I wish I had more time to update you guys and keep you informed. There's still some random projects that are pending upload for you guys so you know what's been gping ok...will try to get some pics uploaded later if get time. Just want you guys to know I'm not avoiding any replies and not abandoning this thread, just been more busy than normal . Some things I've been working on was a home made alternator tensioner adjuster, yep, I went to tighten the alternator belt because it's been squeeling like crazy at cold start up for about a minute or 2. Come to find out the tensioner adjuster there on top the alternator is missing. So the bolt at the bottom of the alternator was the only thing securing it, just crazy, lord, what will I discover next lol. Well, I got my answer soon after my custom home made tensioner adjuster was successfully installed( I got pics, will upload soon guys). Next I'm in the process of removing the head guys as the car's burning lots of white smoke. Removed the spark plugs and sure enough they covered in radiator fluids. The engine was idling and stalled by the way while it was smoking. So I removed the spark plugs, cleaned them and let them dry and cleaned the spark plug wells really good. Reinstalled the spark plugs and the car started fine but still smoking white out of the exhaust. So after research and comparing my symptoms to what the experts are saying, I figured I got a bad head gasket, as that would allow the coolant fluids to pass over and seep into the combustion system. Ok so as we speak I'm attempting DIY head gasket change. All keep you posted, I got pics of everything. I update soon guys hope you are well and have some exciting projects of your own going with some excitement and success
Hey, I see you're having a lot of trouble out of that poor car lately. My motor's almost done on the rebuild and I've got parts to overhaul the one I'm riding on now. If you run into any other issues, I'd be glad to overhaul my motor for you and sell it to you. You'll run through more money replacing a head gasket with no known cause to blow than just getting a new motor dropped in. Has the car run hot? If it did, you replacing the head gasket is just going to be a bandaid that keeps falling off. If it's something else, God help you. Regardless, man, I'd replace the head bolts if nothing else. I had a screw strip out on me in the transmission case because it was torqued over spec before. You don't want that on your old head bolts. Given the shape of what I've seen so far, you were spotted a mile away and they saw "SUCKER" written all over you. It sucks to see someone encounter so many problems with what is really a pretty good car when it's kept up even halfway. To change the head gasket, you'll need a 10-mm 3/8"-drive socket, a long 3/8"-drive extension, a 12-mm wrench, a 12-mm star socket (3/8"-drive) with a cheater bar, a 14-mm combo wrench and possibly a 14-mm 3/8"-drive socket, and a bit of patience. Also, check the timing belt. You'll have to set the timing when the head comes off and goes back on. A tube of copper permatex will be helpful, also. Use it on the exhaust manifold and intake manifolds. This would also be a great time to clean the intake manifold if you feel up to it. Definitely an early-morning all-day job. Good luck, brother.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 03:23 PM
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CransWick thanks so much bro I really appreciate the offer about the OZ kit but I've got my hands full, I'll let the kit pass me by , thanks so much though I really appreciate it. Well, I know it seems like one thing after another with this ES I've got but I'm not gonna let things discourage me. I'll keep tackling them as they come. Chris buddy that 12mm star socket is that the one for the head bolts there on top to remove the head? Thanks so much for your support man, your help has been priceless and greatly appreciated
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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CransWick thanks so much bro I really appreciate the offer about the OZ kit but I've got my hands full, I'll let the kit pass me by , thanks so much though I really appreciate it. Well, I know it seems like one thing after another with this ES I've got but I'm not gonna let things discourage me. I'll keep tackling them as they come. Chris buddy that 12mm star socket is that the one for the head bolts there on top to remove the head? Thanks so much for your support man, your help has been priceless and greatly appreciated
I made a mistake, man. That's a 10-mm star, which is also called a 10-mm 12-point socket. When you pull the valve cover off, down between the rocker arms on either side are the head bolts. They're black and look splined. I found a multi-socket set at O'Reilly's a while back that I use all the time. It's 6 or 7 sockets and they fit around metric and standard sockets. I bought them for the head bolts in particular because I'd planned to pull a head last year. That set is the best thing I have ever bought for working in this car. I'll take a picture of the 10mm/3/8" that I have on-hand and attach it in a post once I get back out to my tools. You'll find them to be wonderful for when you're in a pinch or when you can't carry a big toolbox.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 09:37 PM
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I found the sockets. They're a brand called "powerbuilt," and they're sold in O'Reilly's stores. They're CR-V (chrome-vanadium) sockets, and they're slotted rather than being cut for 6 or 12 points. I have tried them on rounded bolts as well as good ones, and they turn them all like they're brand new. By far the most useful socket set I own (and can't find all of.)

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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 09:31 AM
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Those sockets are not for removing stripped bolts, there are actually bolts that are splined and that's what those are for...head bolts are 12 point.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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Wow! Thanks so much bro and awesome quality pics might I add! I'll grab that socket hopefully tomorrow, but I wont be able to remove the head until Monday morning early. I removed the valve cover and that big wire harness so far and I have 2 bolts remaining on the intake manifold that need removed, I stopped there a couple days ago because I had other important stuff come up and wanted to get your confirmation about what size of that 12 point start spline hehe thanks so much man. I expect it to be a pretty straight task about changing the head gasket, but I'm sure I will drag it out over a few days if not a week because as you know I'm leaving soon August 26 so basically the Lancer head project I can take my time for now no hurry. I haven't even bought the gasket yet, I just waiting to finish the head pull (my first time ever for any car) so this exciting and a real learning experience. If I can successfully change the head gasket(emphasis on successfully) it would be a real confidence booster for me lol with working on this car the Lancer. But I certainly could not take all the credit no way...because Chris man you have been such a big help. I'm just really looking forward to passing you by on the road one of these days man, that would be awesome .
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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Those sockets are not for removing stripped bolts, there are actually bolts that are splined and that's what those are for...head bolts are 12 point.
That's not the case. These are the ones that most people are skeptical of, the "universal" sockets. If you look in the pictures, the ends of the splines are rounded. Splined sockets and bits are squared off at the ends. I just finished dealing with my brother's VW. That thing is home to some polydrive bolts, which are like TORX, but worse. They are recessed splined bolts. I picked them up out of curiosity months ago and have tried them in literally every application I could find. They do exactly what they're advertised for. Good catch, though, Crankswick. Until I touched this 1.8T pain in my butt, I hadn't seen a splined bolt before.
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