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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 07:33 AM
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"this is not my fault, this is a hammer fault to hit my finger "
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
It was very unique to me when i came from EU, "this is not my fault, this is a hammer fault to hit my finger " approach to the problems.
Specially the writings on basic products, for example when you order hot coffee the mug has to show its a hot coffee, and you can burn yourself, and these type of things.
In my many travels to the EU I found there were few provisions for stupid people or lawyers. If you burn yourself because the shower water is to hot, try and complain, you will get laughed at by the hotel desk clerk. "What part of hot do you not understand!"
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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In part that's because most of Europe uses a civil law system, not a common law system like England, Canada, US, Australia and New Zealand. The US is also bizarrely open to the idea that you can sue for ****ing anything, even if the claim would be unsuccessful at trial.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
if you hit your thumb with a hammer, it's the hammer's fault, not yours.

Originally Posted by whtrice
In my many travels to the EU I found there were few provisions for stupid people or lawyers. If you burn yourself because the shower water is to hot, try and complain, you will get laughed at by the hotel desk clerk. "What part of hot do you not understand!"
Originally Posted by ambystom01
In part that's because most of Europe uses a civil law system, not a common law system like England, Canada, US, Australia and New Zealand. The US is also bizarrely open to the idea that you can sue for ****ing anything, even if the claim would be unsuccessful at trial.
I wish it were like that here. People suing because they are dumb is bad enough.. what really gets me is they WIN? Crack pot judging, if you ask me.

I don't think that it's always about American placing blame elsewhere, so much as being taught you can get rich from it. They knew they made a mistake.. but if you can score a few $$$s from it, why not?
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj

I wish it were like that here. People suing because they are dumb is bad enough.. what really gets me is they WIN? Crack pot judging, if you ask me.

I don't think that it's always about American placing blame elsewhere, so much as being taught you can get rich from it. They knew they made a mistake.. but if you can score a few $$$s from it, why not?
No you really don't. Civil jurisdictions require a long and complex set of laws that are all encompassing. There is little to no room for any kind of equitable or novel arguments.

A lot of what you see in the US is honestly bad reporting. Each case turns on the particular facts of that case.

A great example is the infamous "McDonald's coffee" case. I don't know how many times people have ranted to me about how it's proof that the legal system is ****ed and lawyers are vultures.

In reality, the case is an example of fundamental tort law in action. The woman suffered significant 3rd degree burns because McDonald's was, knowingly, keeping their coffee at such a high temperature that they were cited multiple times for it. Why did they do it? Because it saved them money from people getting free coffee by complaining that it was cold. McDonald's openly put saving a dollar here and there ahead of public safety.

At first the woman only wanted McDonald's to pay her medical fees. They told her to screw off. In her lawsuit, she sought the same thing. It was actually a jury, who heard how heartless and callous McDonald's was, that decided she should get millions. Her award was reduced on appeal.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 12:31 PM
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ugh, vid is private now...
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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^Damn. Really? I did get a chance to see it. Wonder why they took it down.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 12:55 PM
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^Damn. Really? I did get a chance to see it. Wonder why they took it down.
Usually when someone is trying to make an insurance or warranty claim, the wide spread distribution of evidence of driver error makes it hard to get the money.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Or tired of everyone calling him an idiot...
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:24 PM
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if you hit your thumb with a hammer, it's the hammer's fault, not yours.
Lol, seriously? Of course I knew the saying he was trying to reference... that was not my point.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
ugh, vid is private now...
Originally Posted by .M.
^Damn. Really? I did get a chance to see it. Wonder why they took it down.
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:40 PM
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damn that hit looked hard... looks like it was going understeer in to oversteer off the road...

at least he didn't hit any of the other cars
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 02:57 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2016 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Lol, seriously? Of course I knew the saying he was trying to reference... that was not my point.
Broken english.. everyone teasing him about sentence structure. All our comments being in text without inflection.. hell, man, I don't know half the time LOL

As for the vid: my advice would be that if you are 1/2 way through a turn and understeering, you may wanna get off the gas LOL
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Old Sep 7, 2016 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Lol, seriously? Of course I knew the saying he was trying to reference... that was not my point.
Poking fun at someone who is bilingual when you have nothing better to do. Are you secretly a 13 year old girl behind the keyboard?
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