sounds like ****

 

Buy a IX and then you'll know what good midrange torque feels like .

If Revolver were a legitimate company with office space and customer service department, I'd suggest that everyone follow the advice of Soon2BEVO:

 

There is not necessarily a correlation between a business going under (or disappearing off the radar) and the quality of their product. It is not a linear conclusion.

I don't really have a dog in this fight (I have the S1's on my car and previous to that I had the GSC 272's), just understand that some have had great success with the Revolvers. Maybe, since things seem to be hit or miss, there was a bad batch somewhere...but without Revolver around to answer questions, it's kind of hard to deduce exactly what's going on.

 

Alright, this is way off topic, but I'll say this.

Good quality product + market demand + "fair" price = successful business

Lacking any one of those elements will result in something less than a successful business. Revolver *had* market demand and reasonable pricing for their cams (assuming they performed as promised). The other factor not mentioned in the equation is "supply." It was intentionally left out because "high demand" created by "good quality" and "fair price" will usually solve the "supply" concern (unless you're dealing with extremely rare raw materials...which isn't the case here).

Bottom line is that Revolver had a chance to be great, and failed miserably. Making some intelligent posts about cam physics and having the support of Buschur does not make up for horrible customer service and a substandard product...as evidenced by their disappearance from the market.

 

I heard that Revolver is going to be coming out with a new line of cams for EVO's.

 

I think that is a vast oversimplification of what it takes to be successful. And I think you created the off-topic by insinuating that bad products = going out of business. I can think of plenty of crap products and businesses that are still around...some are even vendors on this site.

 

Haha, I already have enough in my VIII to not want to start all over with a car that you can't put big cams (11.5mm lift) in. The variable cam timing is nice, but it won't get you that big kick in the *** that a big cam will.

And being a guy who knows what exactly it takes to succeed as a business owner, it's not all that simple. You could make the best product in the world that's highly in demand at a great price, but if you don't have the office backend & procedure to deliver said product profitably, you can fail. And a million other reasons as well. Read "The E Myth" by Michael E. Gerber. Great book for anyone looking to start their own business.

 

Documented quality control problems with Revolver valvetrain "upgrade."

Shocker

 

Dear God, I hate to bump an old thread, but I've got a set of Revolvers on the way, without this bolt. Can anyone verify this is correct? I'd assume I can find something like this at a hardware store?!?

 

Yes, it's correct. However I wouldn't recommend a standard hardware store bolt because they aren't made to withstand the heat/pressures found inside of an engine. Any mechanical shop that works on imports should have one of these for you.

Good luck making those cams work -- I know I sure couldn't.

 

Thank you, good sir. I've read your thread multiple times and can feel your frustration man...

Supposedly the guy who's selling me his, had great results on the stock turbo with his revolvers. So I'm hoping I'm getting a "good" set. I've wanted these cams for the longest time, despite some of the problem threads I've read through...Willing to take a shot and risk it.

 

Yea, don't mean to beat a dead horse into the ground but I have had my revolvers now for close to a year and they seem to work great but the valvetrain noise is pretty horrendous at idle. Sorry to read about your situation Pd1, you showed way more patience than I would have. Seems like these cams are definitely a hit or a miss which is a shame. Happy Motoring

 

What springs/retainers are you running by chance?

 

I am using Supertech springs and retainers, and my head has been ported which may or may not make a difference. I'm also running these on a Buschur Racing 35r turbo kit.